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  • Mixture of 1080i and 720p footage for PAL SD Delivery

    Posted by Michael Lansdell on November 27, 2009 at 9:27 am

    What would be the best way of going about this? The 1080i footage appears to transfer down very well to SD either by being played from it’s source tape onto a DVCAM tape or just shrinking it in the timeline, but the 720p (from a tapeless camera) footage I imagine is going to cause more problems. I haven’t been given a sample of it yet to use (not very helpful, I realise). If it were up to me it would of been shot as we intended to deliver it, but my job is just “fixing” it!

    I have a Blackmagic Decklink HD Extreme card, which offers down conversion, but I don’t know how well it will deal with the mixture, and so wanted to put it to the experts for their opinions!

    Many thanks,

    Michael Lansdell

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    Michael Gissing replied 16 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Petteri Evilampi

    November 27, 2009 at 9:56 am

    Decklink is useless for downconvert, use Compressor, even FCP is better.
    Is Your 720p 25 or 50 frames/sec? If it is 50p use compressor and You will get amazingly good 50i material out of it, either 1080 or 576, it´s your choice. If it is 25p I would de-interlace all other materials and make this a progressive project.

  • Michael Gissing

    November 27, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    [Petteri Evilampi] “If it is 25p I would de-interlace all other materials and make this a progressive project.”

    But SD is interlaced so why deinterlace all the HD material? I would convert the 720 to 1080 50i so that you also have a broadcast compatible HD project if you ever need it and it will downconvert nicely to SD. I don’t know if the Decklink downconvert is better with the Extreme, but I have just changed from Decklink ProHD to Kona3 and the downconverts are much better.

    I don’t use compressor for downconverts as kona is reatime to digi beta.

  • Petteri Evilampi

    November 27, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    SD is interlaced indeed but broadcasting environment can handle progressive signal just like Batacam and DV-Cam can. In home most people have lcd or plasma and they will de-interlace all material anyway. So there is no reason to leave this delicate de-interlacing operation for some cheap chip from Taiwan. It´s better to do carefully and controlled in edit room. Results are better that way.

  • Michael Gissing

    November 28, 2009 at 12:21 am

    Sorry. Don’t agree at all. You are advising people to reduce their resolution.

  • Petteri Evilampi

    November 28, 2009 at 5:42 pm

    Michael Gissing: “Sorry. Don’t agree at all. You are advising people to reduce their resolution.”

    Yes, I am. Result is anyway going to sd, if You bothered to read the original post at all.

  • Michael Gissing

    November 28, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    [Petteri Evilampi] “Result is anyway going to sd, if You bothered to read the original post at all.”

    Then perhaps you should bother to read my previous posts. I responded specifically to the need to to maintain interlaced because it was going to broadcast SD.

    Feel free to criticise my advice as I have yours. However, justify your opinion before seeking to be personal. Attitude is no substitute for knowledge.

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