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  • mixing dvcpro50 24p with dvcproHD 24p

    Posted by Bender on January 16, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    hey guys!

    a client wants to use some old footage (dvcpro50 24p ANAMORPH!!!!) for a project … beside that he wants to shoot new footage on HD (with the varicam) …

    hey wants a trailer edited in HD -> thats fine because theres no use of old sd footage!

    than he wants to edit a 20 min piece -> mixing new shot HD footage with old SD footage

    that doesnt make sense right? is there any possibility to mix the footage in fcp or should we recommend him shooting with the same cam than before so that we got the same footage?

    thanks a lot in advance!
    best
    florian

    Aaron Neitz replied 19 years, 4 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    January 16, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    Well, if all is shot HD, then obviously, it will be better to edit HD. If you end up mixing formats, you’re probably best off downconverting the HD to SD rather than converting the SD to HD. I’d want to get the mixed footage to the same format for editorial, and SD to HD isn’t going to look as good as HD to SD.

    Jerry

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  • Bender

    January 16, 2007 at 4:56 pm

    but dont i get in trouble with the anamorph stuff … i thought HD is just available in native 16:9 ???

  • Aaron Neitz

    January 16, 2007 at 6:10 pm

    HD is only 16:9 correct. So, in essence, the anamorphic SD stuff is 16:9 too (but squished into the 4:3 frame size for transport).

    If you’re shooting Varicam I’m assuming he’s going to be giving you DVCPRO-HD tapes. In that case, you might want to just use compressor, or the upconvert on the DVCPRO-HD deck to turn the DV-50 into 720/1080i. DVCPRO-HD codec doesn’t take much room or bandwidth, so you can totally edit in HD.

  • Bender

    January 16, 2007 at 7:19 pm

    but dont i loose much quality if i upconvert the sd stuff to 720p???? wouldnt you rather reccommend to shoot the stuff in sd? and are you really sure i wont have probs with the anamorphic issue?

    thanks a lot

  • Shane Ross

    January 16, 2007 at 7:26 pm

    I recently edited an HD show for The History Channel and we incorporated a lot of PAL VHS, DV and BetaSP footage. We had all the footage we used in the cut upconverted to DVCPRO HD with the use of a Terranex box. No loss of quality really, it just looked like standard def footage in a High Def show…which is what it was. We cut the show with the footage at it’s normal resolution, resizing and rendering as we went along (got pretty fast at it actually) and then created a source tape of the master footage.

    I created some Compressor droplets that upconvert too, but they take FOREVER. But the results are similiar.

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    Shane

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  • Jerry Hofmann

    January 16, 2007 at 8:27 pm

    I’ve not upconverted much SD to HD. Seems that the clients either shoot one or the other, but I wonder about the quality hit upconverting the SD to HD… does it really look OK? I’m sure the Terranix is quicker… Compressor can work with a QMaster to create a render farm, might make sense if you have the machines to do this with.

    Jerry

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  • Aaron Neitz

    January 16, 2007 at 11:44 pm

    If you’re upconverting the highest quality Digitbeta anamorphic to HD – it can looks fairly decent. It will never LOOK like real HD, but it can look pretty decent for what it is.

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