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  • Mixing 23.976 and 119.88 rates

    Posted by Vincent Levalois on May 20, 2019 at 1:34 am

    Working in Vegas 15 – My files are a mix of 1080p 24p and 120p. If my timeline is exclusively made up of the latter, I export to 1080p 29.97 and all is well, with clips slowed down to 1/4 speed for slow mo. However, if I have mostly 24p clips and I want to add some 120p, I’ve got a problem when exporting to 23.976. Jaggedy slow mo video is the result.

    Do I need to convert all my clips one way or the other or can you suggest a more efficient workflow?

    Windows 10 / Vegas Pro 15

    George Dean replied 7 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Francois Pénzes

    May 20, 2019 at 11:43 am

    Hi Vincent

    If you render the problematic part, do you get the same thing and get it only in the preview window ?

    Cheers !

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  • Vincent Levalois

    May 20, 2019 at 3:24 pm

    It manifests in the rendered file. I haven’t checked to really pay attention in the Preview window only because I ignore most issues there and chalk it up to performance more than codec or file compatibility with the timeline.

    Windows 10 / Vegas Pro 15

  • George Dean

    May 20, 2019 at 3:26 pm

    Vincent@” However, if I have mostly 24p clips and I want to add some 120p, I’ve got a problem when exporting to 23.976. Jaggedy slow mo video is the result.

    Hi Vincent,

    First I’m going to make an assumption that both your 119.88 and 23.976 footage are progressive.

    As you probably know, the slowest Vegas will go is 1/4 or 25% by setting the Playback rate in event Properties. Because 24.976 will devide evenly 5 times into 119.88, you would need 20% to produce smooth slow motion without the need for some type of optical flow interpolation.

    Vegas Pro 15 has a Velocity Envelope that will go way down to 1 frame. If you adjust the Velocity Envelope to 20%, then stretch out the event 5 times the length, you should get very smooth slow motion from your 120p footage in a 24p project.

    So, ‘Disable Sampling’ and use the ‘Velocity Envelope’ (right click event for this option), does that look better?

    BTW: using the default track height, I find making fine adjustments to an Envelope very difficult, so for this adjustment I will drag down the edge of the track and expand it’s height a bunch, make the Envelope adjustment and then set the track height back to normal.

    Best Regards……George

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