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Microsoft DV compression in a Premiere Pro timeline
Okay, I’ve got another one for you guys. I’ve rendered out AVI’s with a Microsoft DV codec before and not had to render my sequences. However, when I render an AVI with no compression I do have to render. The thing is, I think that you really do notice the loss of quality with the Microsoft DV codec and hate to use it. Any suggestions for changing what premiere is looking for or using any other compression formats that will look great and not need to be rendered?
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PPro doesn’t use the MSDV codec on the timeline. It uses the Main Concept DV codec internally…YUV, really good quality. Right in there with the Canopus and Matrox codecs.
The type of file that sits on the harddrive can be a generic Windows DV file, but it’s using the actual MSDV codec in the editing software that causes the degradation.
PPro does quite well with DV. I’ve been satisfied with several small budget SD commercials we’ve done on DV in Pro…and I was a Canopus user specifically for quality reasons.
TimK,
Kolb Productions,
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Okay, so what if I capture uncompressed video. When I edit are the transitions and effects applied uncompressed? I have a project coming up that’s on Beta SP. I want to capture it uncompressed and keep the quality all the way through the process. PPro can do this right?
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Jwedit. Tim is right with his comments. However, I seem to have read your question different from to response Tim gave. It seemed that you were asking why Premiere had to render and uncompressed avi file. This is because it works with files that has been compressed with one of the DV codec standards.
Your uncompressed AVI file should be 5 times larger than one that is compressed to a DV standard (the way it comes from the DV camera).
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Yes, PPro can capture and edit uncompressed and keep all transitions and effects uncompressed. You just need to use an uncompressed project and have hardware and drivers that interface with your Beta SP deck (e.g. Decklink, AJA, Bluefish).
-AJ
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I went to After Effects to export a clip with the Main Concept setting as specified earlier, and that doesn’t appear on my list of Avi codecs, however it does appear in an Mpeg. Is there something that I’m missing?
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My real question is what codec can I render out of AE that will not need to be rendered in a premiere timeline. I know Microsft DV is one of these, but as I said am unhappy with premiere handles those and the ultimate quality. Will buying the Main concept codec and rendering out of AE with this codec be the best solution? Any other options?
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Okay, not sure why you’re having problems with the MSDV codec but I don’t think the MC codec will give you much better results from AE. I haven’t tried it myself so I could be wrong. For best results (and no rendering in PPro), render out to uncompressed AVI or Quicktime Animation and import that into an uncompressed PPro project. From what I understand, if you have the new Production Studio, you can use the Dynamic Link technology to drop AE elements on the PPro timeline with no rendering.
-AJ
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