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  • Bill Davis

    April 27, 2016 at 7:37 am

    [Steve Connor] “Good grief, lighten up Bill!”

    Sure. Just provide me a reason. They’re just words. Nobody gets hurt.

    I can just as easily write dull careful paragraphs that don’t bother anyone.

    Buy why?

    Can’t we have one little corner on the web where we get to argue with a little passion occasionally?

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  • Steve Connor

    April 27, 2016 at 8:40 am

    [Bill Davis] “Can’t we have one little corner on the web where we get to argue with a little passion occasionally?”

    Sure we can, it could be the same place where people are allowed a negative opinion about FCPX, who haven’t used it extensively, without being jumped on every time they say something.

    and for the record I enjoy using FCPX as much as you do 🙂

  • Robin S. kurz

    April 27, 2016 at 9:49 am

    You forget, Bill. You can’t have an opinion OR ask questions (especially the uncomfortable ones) before running it past Steve! 😉 Do it, or feel the righteous wrath!

    – RK

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  • Steve Connor

    April 27, 2016 at 10:37 am

    [Robin S. Kurz] “You forget, Bill. You can’t have an opinion OR ask questions (especially the uncomfortable ones) before running it past Steve! 😉 Do it, or feel the righteous wrath!

    Yep, that’s what I meant, you’re not missing the point at all.

  • Robin S. kurz

    April 27, 2016 at 11:08 am

    Oh the irony.

    – RK

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  • Herb Sevush

    April 27, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Shoot, even the things I spent some time kinda being ashamed to be a fan of, (The Monkees and Donovan”

    There is no reason, none, to be ashamed of liking either.

    The Monkees, while a corporate construct, recorded very good pop songs using the best producers and session musicians in LA at the time. Michael Nesmith, who wrote Linda Rondstandts first hit “Different Drum, is a talented musician and made some excellent records on his own with the First National Band. The rest of the Monkies were not much and the only great song they recorded is Carol King’s “Giant Steps” who’s ultimate recording was by Taj Mahal, but “I’m a Believer” holds up very well as mid sixties pop.

    As for Donovan, he was a fabulous musician who made some really great records that stand up to this day. He was better served when he added more Jeff Beck and subtracted a little of his airy fairies – but I’d put his music up against pretty much anyone from his time.

    See what I did there Bill – I advocated for that which I loved but still managed a little critical evaluation. It’s possible to be a fan with being a fanboi. Here, I’ll try it again:

    I love Springsteen, but he hasn’t made a decent record in over 15 years and I’d rather listen to Patti Scialfa’s latest records than his.

    Give it a try Bill, come to the dark side.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
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  • Oliver Peters

    April 27, 2016 at 1:03 pm

    I realize it’s sacrilege to point this out here, but there were a lot more interesting things at NAB than whatever may or may not have happened over at the Renaissance. 🙂

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Bill Davis

    April 27, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    [Steve Connor] “and for the record I enjoy using FCPX as much as you do :)”

    I know that Steve.

    And respect your opinion.

    I just want to keep one little part of how I can express my thoughts about X open to not having to ALWAYS weasel everything I say to acknowledge every other approach as equivalent.

    I’m not actually trying to confront others who have chosen an alternate path. If they’re happy, I’m happy for them. But I’m still going to do my best to articulate what it is about MY choice that makes ME happy.

    And I think that’s fair.

    If people think I’m hyperbolic about stuff, fine. Nobody ever died from watching somebody be else be excited by something.

    At least I hope not!

    ; )

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  • Bill Davis

    April 27, 2016 at 5:42 pm

    But isn’t it odd that unlike the past two years, there really hasn’t been any big “breakout” announcements like the stuff BlackMagic has done in recent years past.

    I don’t recall getting a big “top of mind” message take away from Sony, Canon, RED, or any of the other big camera players,

    In the NLE space, it seemed REALLY quiet. Resolve got a nice update, but not earth shattering. Apple did what Apple did. JVC and Panasonic had nice line adds, but nothing that seems to be a real game changer. Lytro tried to make a big splash as did Ozo, but the price points are like the old days when good cameras were expected to command at least five figures – and it may be that that ship has sailed. Time will tell.

    Lighting and grip was active with large scale LEDs continuing their advances, but again, I didn’t see anything truly transformative.

    The big VR theme was the only fresh takeaway, but mostly at the will this fly for the masses? level of discussion. Not so much as this is something you’ve GOT to do right now to remain relevant.

    Oliver, what stuck with you? Anything you noticed that you think that you’ll look back on NAB 2016 and remember as the year (IDEA X) changed things?

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  • Tim Wilson

    April 27, 2016 at 6:03 pm

    [Bill Davis] “But isn’t it odd that unlike the past two years, there really hasn’t been any big “breakout” announcements like the stuff BlackMagic has done in recent years past.

    I don’t recall getting a big “top of mind” message take away from Sony, Canon, RED, or any of the other big camera players, “

    fwiw, please note that I’ve added a new thread on this very topic, and I’d love to see this part of the discussion continued there: NAB 2016: What is standing the test of time? (The 1 Week Edition)

    Although far be it from me to suggest that a thread stay on topic. LOL What does that even MEAN anymore? LOL

    But I’m feeling lonely and bad about myself over there, and I need you to give me a reason to live. LOL

    thx,
    tw

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