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  • Mic or line level?

    Posted by Roberto Cerini on June 24, 2009 at 1:36 am

    I posted this question in the SONY area, but I now realize this may be a better area to ask.

    I just ordered a SONY HDR-HC9. I can’t figure out if I can connect a line level signal (from a preamp) into the mic minijack or not. The manual says it’s a MIC (PLUG IN POWER) jack. I have some pres I’d like to use and connect to the camera, if possible.

    Thanks,

    Roberto Cerini
    https://www.robertocerini.com

    Emilio Alvarez replied 16 years, 2 months ago 5 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Ty Ford

    June 24, 2009 at 3:38 am

    Hello Roberto,

    I’m thinking mic level only. Maybe -10, but don’t count on it.
    Regards,

    Ty Ford

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  • Roberto Cerini

    June 24, 2009 at 11:42 am

    Thanks Ty. I come from the audio world and am trying to get up to speed on the video world.

    Being mic only (and I bet you’re right on the -10), it sounds like my only other option if I want to use better mics (and condensers at that), is to use an external recorder and sync back in the NLE?

    Or I guess I could get a phantom power box and connect it to the camera with an XLR to 3.5mm adapter (which I could easily build). The only disadvantage would that I would lose the balanced signal, but I don’t think it’s too big of an issue since the run would be very short.

    The other thing I have to figure out is how to make a cable that connects 2 XLR’s to a TRS mini plug (so I can separate left and right if needed). Are there any good sites with info on how to do this?

    Is there any issues anyone could think with my idea?

    Thanks,

    Roberto Cerini
    https://www.robertocerini.com

  • Ty Ford

    June 24, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Roberto,

    Here’s the cable:
    https://www.trewaudio.com/store/product.php?productid=147&cat=21&page=1

    Trew put a blocking capacitor in to keep the camera’s DC power from getting into the mics. Some mics don’t like that voltage, some tolerate it.

    Running unbalanced does make the system more vulnerable to noise due to lack of shielding and because the circuit is single ended, you also lose 6 dB of signal.

    Regards,

    Ty Ford

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  • Roberto Cerini

    June 24, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Awesome thanks. Just ordered one. A bit expensive, but I like the mic protection.
    Next I will be ordering a dual Phantom power supply (I wish I could use the ones in my mixers and pres 🙁 )

    Roberto Cerini
    https://www.robertocerini.com

  • Roberto Cerini

    June 24, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    A potentially dumb question… Once I split my mics to left and right channel, if I record one single mic it will obviously be recorded to either the LH or RH channel depending on where it is plugged in. If it;s a simple voice track (interview like), I will want the track to be centered and probably even mono. The only option I can think of is to import the final video into my NLE, export the audio track, import it into my DAW to render it to mono, export it and then bring it back into my NLE. Is that correct?

    Thanks for all the help,

    Roberto Cerini
    https://www.robertocerini.com

  • Alan Lloyd

    June 24, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    “The only option I can think of is to import the final video into my NLE, export the audio track, import it into my DAW to render it to mono, export it and then bring it back into my NLE. Is that correct?”

    You can double your single channel audio in most editing applications without going to an outboard audio application.

  • Roberto Cerini

    June 24, 2009 at 3:22 pm

    Thanks Alan. I’m still learning Premiere Pro.

    Roberto Cerini
    https://www.robertocerini.com

  • Ty Ford

    June 24, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    Robert,

    No, import both discard the empty one and center pan the good one, or get the Trew cable that puts one mic on both channels.

    Regards,

    Ty Ford

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  • Roberto Cerini

    June 25, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    Yeah, that’s what I was planning on doing in my DAW. I’ll have to figure out how to do that in Premiere Pro.

    Roberto Cerini
    https://www.robertocerini.com

  • Rob Neidig

    June 27, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    Roberto,

    In Premiere Pro, click on the audio track, then in the Audio Effects choose “Fill Left” or “Fill Right” (depending on which channel your mono audio is in) and it will put the same audio in both channels.

    Have fun!

    Rob

    Rob Neidig
    R&R Media Productions
    Eugene, Oregon

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