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Miaow…
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[Gustavo Bermudas] “Or maybe you should stop bullying those who disagree with X and want to express their opinions. Go to the X Techniques forum instead if you’re set with it.
“Yes, bullying, that’s what I’m doing, of course, it’s obvious now, thanks for pointing it out. I’ll stop immediately.
Steve Connor
FCP X – it ain’t going away!
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[Charlie Austin] “[Gustavo Bermudas] “[Steve Connor] “Perhaps if you stopped first everyone else would follow?”
Or maybe you should stop bullying those who disagree with X and want to express their opinions. Go to the X Techniques forum instead if you’re set with it.”
Miaow! lol”
Indeed!
Steve Connor
Class Bully
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I have not noticed any bullying here. I have noticed diverging opinions and people trying to understand how other people think and why. But I have not seen bullying.
Tim
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Same here – I’ve made good money off of just about every NLE out there since the late 90’s including Avid, Sony Vegas (my all-time fav) FCP, Premiere and even a little Edius and Avid DS and yes even FCPX.
I do tend to lean towards Aindreas camp when it comes to X, for all the uber cool features and hidden pluses, the main weakness is actually the timeline and EDITING! I think the only way for veteran Editors like myself to really learn to like FCPX is to do a major gig with it and plow through regardless of how you feel about – just pretend it’s the only LE available and finish the show. By major I mean something like a TV show, high end doc or feature film – something fairly long with a busy timeline and just see how it goes. This is my plan with my next feature film – don’t know if I’ll make it but will try…
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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Wouldn’t a doc or TV show be a fairly basic timeline? When I think complicated timeline I think corporate video where we’re doing layers and layers of green screen combined with motion graphics and sometimes cheesy effects. When I think TV show I think drama and basically cuts and dissolves, but heavy on the color correction and sound design. Both of which are usually done by third parties outside of the app.
The first thing I did in X was a fairly basic piece that was going to utilize two of X’s strengths- logging/key wording, and multicam. It was one of those pieces where we asked different people the same 10 questions and had to piece together a narrative with their answers. Each interview was shot with 2 cams and an external recorder. So they utilized multicam and audio syncing. And key wording the answers by question/topic and then also by favorites really opened my eyes to the power of key wording vs bins.
From there on out it was just about comfort level. And the app was buggier back then as well (2 years ago).
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[Bret Williams] “Wouldn’t a doc or TV show be a fairly basic timeline?”
I think it’s tough to generalize about anything like that, though it happens all the time, and not just here. Feature folks think TV or Advertising is simple, Advertising folks think long form is pretty basic etc etc. I’ve cut 30 second spots that have made the folks responsible for online/mix heads explode. And the opposite is true as well. A romantic comedy is gonna have way less going on than an epic shoot-em-up action movie. A doc about a painter is gonna have less going on that one about a world war. Or not. 🙂
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I’m basically saying any show of 1/2 hour or longer with a fairly complex timeline. My last 2 national TV shows had a ton of compositing, flares etc with layer modes, multi-layered graphics and lower 3rds etc. plus a ton of color fx etc. I cut both in Premiere CC with no issues.
I do all my own sound design when I cut, regardless of the show type, so ease of audio editing/mixing etc is important to me. The way I cut with sound, Sony Vegas has been, by far, the best NLE for those who like working with sound and picture. FCPX is pretty cool with audio, much better than Premiere or Avid, but it can get frustrating at times when I’m build a scene with a dozen or more laters of sound fx and music…
Lance Bachelder
Writer, Editor, Director
Downtown Long Beach, California
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No, it’s not huge deal. But it is a deal. And it’s a deal that would cost me clients. Believe me, mine don’t want to hear about it. Even if I could make it work in my little world, based on the company’s clearly demonstrated ambivalence to workflows that don’t suit its idea of the future, I have to cast a baleful eye on FCPX.
Tim
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[TImothy Auld] “Even if I could make it work in my little world, based on the company’s clearly demonstrated ambivalence to workflows that don’t suit its idea of the future, I have to cast a baleful eye on FCPX.”
All good. I’m fortunate I guess… for all my clients know I could be cutting on windows movie maker. All they ever see is what comes out the end. 🙂
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You are blessed.
Tim
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