Miaow…

[Marcus Moore]

That’s it exactly. None of these decisions are permanent or irreversible. People moved from AVID to FCP. People move from FCP to AVID or PP. In a couple years who knows which way the wind will blow.

If the way things are are the way thing will always be, then FCP Legacy would never have gained marketshare, and Premier would still the crap product it was 5 years ago.

Things change.

[Steve Connor]

[Jeremy Garchow] “I’m not saying you have to like it, but it’s not bullshit.

It does take some getting used to, but once it’s there, the fcpx timeline for video editing is quite remarkable.

Sorry, but it’s true at least for me.

I am I the midst of a two week client attended promo edit and X allows a lot of ideas to be procured quickly and non destructively, and Auditions in combination with the magnetic timeline as well as “blade speed” are truly an advancement in editing design. Having secondary storyline pods to play in and try ideas without disrupting the rest of the timeline is the antithesis of bullshit. And once fcpx really starts to make sense, the “Project” moniker starts to actually make some sense, but that’s probably another conversation. It fits my needs, it might not fit everyone.

Audio editing could use some help, the UI could use some refinement especially in layer selection and management, some aspects of Library aren’t my favorite, but the structure and methods of the timeline are quite powerful and creative, much more so than Pr’s, and Legend’s clunky timeline. “

Well summed up Jeremy, won’t convince the hater though.

The idea that if London and LA Post houses don’t use FCP X then it will die is frankly laughable. Hard for some to imagine a world outside their own particular orbit.

Steve Connor

There’s nothing we can’t argue about on the FCPX COW Forum

[Tom Sefton]

Yes, watch rugby. League or Union its miles better than football.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3cnss1UMO8

[Scott Witthaus]

[Aindreas Gallagher] “X remains probably total bullshit as an editing system.”

Ah yes, yet another incredibly professional and well thought out comment.

Apple doesn’t care about the old guys, like most on this forum. And London post houses don’t matter a rip either.

What I am seeing is 22-26 year olds switching from Premiere TO FCP X. The Premiere CC model sucks, and they feel the interface is shabby (I agree. It’s awful, at least in my CS6.). So X makes sense to them. There’s the future, not some post houses in the UK. They are just using it and don’t care what Aindreas or any of us, for that matter, babble about.

This is a bigger loss for Avid.

Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter

[Timothy Auld]

[Jeremy Garchow] “Audio editing could use some help”

And that’s my principal problem. While I do a lot of picture editing, I do a lot more dialog editing.

Tim

[Shawn Miller]

[Steve Connor] “The idea that if London and LA Post houses don’t use FCP X then it will die is frankly laughable. Hard for some to imagine a world outside their own particular orbit.”

I think that could be said of just about any of us… workflow, NLE, OS, creative tools in general… whatever you prefer to use in your work, there always seems to be someone willing to disapprove of your choices… 🙂

EDIT: And I do mean ANY of us… supporters and critics of FCPX alike!

Shawn

[Charlie Austin]

[TImothy Auld] “[Jeremy Garchow] “Audio editing could use some help”

And that’s my principal problem. While I do a lot of picture editing, I do a lot more dialog editing.
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I do too. And I find editing/cheating dialog in X to be an absolute dream. You do need to do a little organization to prevent the syllable you just chopped off from jumping around, but it’s not a big deal. Other than that it beats the pants off any NLE I’ve used. The ability to adjust clips in sample increments is more like a DAW. FWIW

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[Shawn Miller]

[Charlie Austin] “The ability to adjust clips in sample increments is more like a DAW. FWIW”

You can also edit and adjust clips down to the sample level in Premiere and Vegas… FYI. Speaking of… I think Vegas gets the prize for being the most DAW like. 🙂

Shawn

[Charlie Austin]

[Shawn Miller] “You can also edit and adjust clips down to the sample level in Premiere and Vegas… FYI. Speaking of… I think Vegas gets the prize for being the most DAW like. :-)”

I’ve heard that about Vegas, I’d like to try it but I have the wrong OS… And yes, I realize you can edit and adjust audio in sample increments in other NLE’s, but, AFAIK, you can’t move or trim them in the timeline in that small an increment. I can trim or move a clip in minuscule increments without leaving the timeline. I like that.

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[Shawn Miller]

[Charlie Austin] “[Shawn Miller] “You can also edit and adjust clips down to the sample level in Premiere and Vegas… FYI. Speaking of… I think Vegas gets the prize for being the most DAW like. :-)”

I’ve heard that about Vegas, I’d like to try it but I have the wrong OS…”

I think Lance Batchelder used to run Vegas via Bootcamp… unless I’m misremembering that, hopefully he’ll correct me if I’m wrong. I just remember ‘back in the day’, he was one of the few Mac users on the Sonic Foundry Vegas forums.

[Charlie Austin] “And yes, I realize you can edit and adjust audio in sample increments in other NLE’s, but, AFAIK, you can’t move or trim them in the timeline in that small an increment. I can trim or move a clip in minuscule increments without leaving the timeline. I like that.”

No… you can move, edit and trim audio on the timeline (down to the sample level) in Premiere and Vegas. Unless I’m mistaken, Premiere has been able to do this since CS4… though, I could be misremembering that too. 🙂

Shawn