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Metal/the next FCP X re-write – and InfinityFabric
Oliver Peters replied 6 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 20 Replies
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Steve Connor
June 12, 2019 at 8:42 pm[Andrew Kimery] “if 16K projects start becoming a common thing in 2023, and other NLEs have 32-bit 16K support in 2021, does it matter that Avid had it in 2019?”
No because we all wouldn’t have had time to get the new eyes that we’ll need to actually see 16K and beyond 🙂
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Oliver Peters
June 12, 2019 at 8:43 pm[Andrew Kimery] “but it is possible to skate too far ahead of the puck”
Look, I personally have no interest in 8K or 16K. However, the Japanese are already venturing into those areas. So it’s not 2023. The point is, if you are going to rework the pipeline, you want as much potential headroom as possible. I suspect FCPX and the 2019 MP will be fine with 16K projects. But it seems to me the pipeline issue may bite them sooner than later.
– Oliver
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Steve Connor
June 12, 2019 at 8:44 pm[Oliver Peters] “they are already behind the eight-ball in terms of where the industry could be headed. “
A small subset of the industry? I see your point though 🙂
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Andrew Kimery
June 12, 2019 at 9:18 pm[Oliver Peters] “However, the Japanese are already venturing into those areas. So it’s not 2023. “
NHK is always tinkering, and HD existed for decades before it finally found traction (for various reasons) in the early 2000’s.
8K is around the corner so Apple is talking about 8K. 16K is around the corner from 8K and Avid is talking about that because they are trying to shake the stigma of being an old, broken down NLE that only exists due to favorable market inertia. I don’t doubt that when 16K is actually around the corner that Apple will talk about it’s 16K ability and how it’s based on the latest tech (as opposed to the ‘old’ 16K tech used by *those other guys*). 😉
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Andre Van berlo
June 13, 2019 at 9:45 amAt 5:40 into the video he mentions that Metal will use any available hardware. Does that mean that is doesn’t have to be identical GPU’s or CPU’s? So if I have a Mac Pro 2013 with an eGPU it would use both the D700’s + the Vega for decoding?
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Oliver Peters
June 13, 2019 at 12:14 pm[Andre van Berlo] “Does that mean that is doesn’t have to be identical GPU’s or CPU’s?”
I believe this is the case. That is already being experienced when people have an eGPU. But it is application-dependent.
– Oliver
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Bill Davis
June 19, 2019 at 4:49 pm[Steve Connor] “[Oliver Peters] “they are already behind the eight-ball in terms of where the industry could be headed. ”
A small subset of the industry? I see your point though :)”
Resolution creep?
I see this as merely one large conspiracy generated by the Forensic TV shows.
Some wretched writer pened the line: “Enhance, enhance, enhance…” a decade ago — and since then video engineering has been desperately trying to make it come true.Sigh.
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Oliver Peters
June 19, 2019 at 4:53 pm[Bill Davis] “Some wretched writer pened the line: “Enhance, enhance, enhance…” a decade ag”
Huh? Been hitting the merlot again? ☺
– Oliver
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Bill Davis
June 20, 2019 at 10:02 pm[Oliver Peters] “Huh? Been hitting the merlot again? ☺
“I wish.
It’s the 4K to 8K to (all too soon) 16K resolution curve.The only thing it’s truly useful for at present is “push reframing” for HD delivery.
(Ergo the “enhance” quip – where badly written Forensic Files type shows classically had some lamebrained character take a 640×480 security camera feed, and magically “enhance” the footage to reveal the reflection of the killer in a Chrome trailer hitch across the street from a murder scene.I’m betting that’s possible when all cameras (including our phones) get upgraded from 8K to perhaps 4800K…
Someday.
Maybe. ????
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Oliver Peters
June 20, 2019 at 10:56 pm[Bill Davis] “I’m betting that’s possible when all cameras (including our phones) get upgraded from 8K to perhaps 4800K”
Unfortunately in actual practice quite a few 4K (and above) images look substandard when viewed at 1:1 pixels. So there are a lot of “smoke & mirrors” being used with much of this higher-resolution market-speak.
– Oliver
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