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  • metadata in cinema tools

    Posted by David Massachi on April 13, 2007 at 7:23 pm

    I am starting to digitize footage for a feature film, shot on 35mm and telecined to digibeta. To “save money”, the producers had the telecine guy make simple flex files, which only include this info:

    Videotape number, video tape in/out timecode, lab roll, camera roll, KK

    He did not sync the sound to digibeta during the telecine.

    Each camera roll is one event (master clip) in the flx files they made.

    Then they synced the sound using DAT copies of the original DVD-RAMs. During the sync sessions, they created CMX-3600 EDLs of how the sound was laid onto the digibetas. Those EDLs include this info:

    sound roll, sound timecode in/out, digibeta master timecode in/out.

    I would like to digitize this footage in such a way as to be able to make film cut lists at the end of the edit, plus have the sound editors re-conform the sound, using sound timecode, from the original DVD-RAM recordings. Is there a way to combine the info from the flex files and the sound EDLs to create a bin of clips with all the metadata included in each take? I was thinking that I could edit the text somehow using excel or something, or using Cinema Tools to gather all this info into some kind of ALE for import into Avid.

    Any ideas or experience with this problem?

    My edit system:

    Avid Film Composer v. 10.6.0 (Meridien)
    Power Mac G4, 867 MHz
    Mac OS 9.2.2
    512 MB RAM
    ATTO UL3D SCSI card
    Avid rS MediaDrives

    My 2nd system:

    PowerBook G4 17″
    1.33 GHz processor
    2 GB RAM
    Mac OS X 10.4.9
    QuickTime Pro 7.1.5
    Cinema Tools 3.1.2

    massachi

    Misha Aranyshev replied 19 years ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
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  • Misha Aranyshev

    April 14, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    [massachi] “To “save money”, the producers had the telecine guy make simple flex files”

    Charge the producer all the money he saved and some more. 🙂

    [massachi] “I would like to digitize this footage in such a way as to be able to make film cut lists at the end of the edit”

    Run a small test. Import provided flex file, capture one camroll, synchronize with Cinema Tools. Create subclips for each take and arrange them on the timeline. Export the cut list but in the export settings choose Clip name instead of Scene & Take. It may work. I’ve never tried it though.

    [massachi] “Is there a way to combine the info from the flex files and the sound EDLs to create a bin of clips with all the metadata included in each take? I was thinking that I could edit the text somehow using excel or something, or using Cinema Tools to gather all this info into some kind of ALE for import into Avid.”

    Well, there is a hard way. Log every take on each tape in FCP, capture, synchronize with Cinema Tools and fill all the data into the database. KK, camroll/labroll should be on the burn-in and Sound TC on the digital slate.

    Too be honest things done for the sound look somewhat backwards to me. Chances are sound takes on DVD-RAM’s are Broadcast WAV files and the latest versions of FCP read TC in BWF fine. It would be much faster and cleaner to import them directly into FCP, sync and export OMF’s of the cut.

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