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  • “Merge clips” in Sony Vegas

    Posted by Guðmundur Erlingsson on June 25, 2011 at 1:28 am

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone could answer this: As one is wont to do, I and my friend, a professional editor in cinema and broadcasting, were comparing NLE’s the other day. He’s working in a (digital) film production at the moment and basically his job so far has been to take clips and sync them to audio to prepare for the editing itself. He asked me if you could do a thing like that in Vegas (that is, sync image and audio in the media pool, not on the timeline itself). He’s been using FCP but was looking into doing it on a PC and had found out that this was not possible in Premiere. Although I’ve used Vegas extensively for the last 5-6 years, I couldn’t really find an answer to this, and searching through the manual, the help, the forums here or Google didn’t help (could be that I searched for the wrong keywords). This feature, “Merge Clips”, in FCP is better explained here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRFxn0BeFKI. Anyone?

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    Malcolm Matusky replied 14 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Stephen Mann

    June 25, 2011 at 5:11 am

    I’m not sure what your asking, but it sounds like you are trying to make a simple task really hard (so you’ll look more pro??)

    First, who use the timeline? That’s what it’s there for.
    Second, before PluralEyes was introduced last year, I would look for sync points in my audio tracks to line up multi-camera projects. It just took a few minutes, but PluralEyes does it better.
    Last. Media on the Vegas timeline is an event, not a clip. Which is why you won’t find “clip” in the help files or manuals references to the timeline.

    So, what do you mean by “merging”??

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Guðmundur Erlingsson

    June 25, 2011 at 8:38 am

    Thank you for the answer, Steve. No, it’s not really a question of me looking pro as it’s not something I need to do, it’s just that I’d like to be able to give my friend an answer to this (and possibly get him to use Vegas) :). I can’t really explain it better than it is explained in the youtube video, as I’m not really knowledgeable about FCP at all. As I understand it, he needs to prepare all the shots from a days shooting and sync all relevant audio (from the camera, boom mike, etc) to the relevant video clip, and when he closes the file the info is still there, so when the editor eventually starts to edit the movie he can just start editing and doesn’t have to start with syncing audio. So, a time saver basically, but it seemed an important selling point to my friend. (And I used “clips” because the feature is called “Merge Clips” in FCP, so didn’t have a better word for, english not being my first language an all that.) Hope that clears it a bit, but I’m basically trying to explain something I’ve never used myself in a language I don’t use every day…

  • Guðmundur Erlingsson

    June 25, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Hi again,

    After searching some more I found an even better explanation for this. Maybe a better description of this is to layer (rather then merge) video and audio into a single entity (not unlike a photoshop image), which then can be used in the editing (there are also several threads that come up in the FCP forum here on Creative Cow if you search for “Merge Clips”.

    Concerning Vegas, the closest I’ve managed to find is in this thread. The workaround suggested there is either to sync on the timeline and either render out to a file (but then losing the possibility of having layers of audio or video) or to save it as a .veg file, which seems to pretty much do the trick.

    I’ll look into PluralEyes. Thanks, Steve, for pointing it out (so many useful software out there, it’s impossible to keep track), according to their FAQ it should be possible.

  • Malcolm Matusky

    June 26, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    I shoot double system and use VP9, my workflow has been to synch with Plural Eyes and save the file as a “synchmaster” veg. Then nest the synchmaster into another veg called edit master. I do this so I can create “clips” in the trimmer to break up my synched file and make sure the audio does not revert to the poor quality camera audio. I had problems with this in the past and simply nesting the synched file created a permanent “lock” with the new audio tracks.

    Malcolm
    http://www.malcolmproductions.com

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