Media Offline Graphic on Export but timeline is fine – lost trust in premiere

[Tero Ahlfors]

I haven’t had that happen in CC 2018 but media offline usually means that, for some reason, Premiere can’t read the file. What format is the file? Are you rendering using previews? Have you checked that the file and/or folder has proper read/write permissions?

That said:

[david payne] “Watching every second of everything I produce is indeed an option, but it really shouldn’t be necessary. Sadly i have now lost all trust in premiere. “

Shit can and will happen. In every system with pretty much any program. That’s why I will check or spot check everything I send out to clients. If you have longer videos you could run them through MediaArea QCTools or something like that.

[Rich Rubasch]

On that suggestion I agree….we have to absolutely eagle eye everything. If you rendered a Morph Cut and then didn’t select Use Previews sending to Encoder you’ll get the Analyzing Data bar across the screen.

First time we had to do this since we spot checked Betacam station dubs for dropout in 1997…I have to watch every single frame of every encode going to the client…..because of Premier “Pro”.

Pro?

Did anyone else hear that Oscar winner throw a shout out to AVID during his speech this year? Hope they have that on a loop at NAB!

Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media Inc.
Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
Founder/President/Editor/Designer/Animator
https://www.tiltmedia.com

[Tero Ahlfors]

I’ve had to deal with all kinds of strange bugs and issues before, after and during projects with even more expensive hardware/software solutions. Usually it can be dealt with with a bit of troubleshooting or a workflow change. Sometimes they were one off issues, sometimes footage issues and sometimes you’d just need to reboot. The thing is that no matter what the end result is and what software is giving you issues the whole thing will be on you. The client won’t care that your Mac Trashcan overheats and sometimes renders weird lines when they’re looking at the finished product in a packed theatre. They’re gonna call you.

It’s kinda ironic that the only thing I had to actually straight up decline to use was a really expensive quality control tool that didn’t spot any errors on our error filled HDCAM SR tape. Luckily it was only a trial setup.

[David Payne]

thanks Dave, actually the issues I had were with CC2017. I mentioned CC2018 as I have now updated to that. I havent experienced the issue on 2018 yet however I havent really used it. I have bugs still present in 2018 from about 4 years ago so I never expect anything to get fixed with a newer version of premiere. They just tend to add a load of features that very few people want unless they’re smart phone shooting 360 degree loving odd balls.

[David Payne]

I’ve just checked and use previews is actually UN-CHECKED at the moment. Whether that was the same in CC 2017 when I was experiencing this issue I cant say.

Could you explain what that tick box does and confirm i should have it checked when exporting?

By the way in relation to your video about format, permissions and locations etc. All of my videos are in one place on one drive and its only ever one single clip that premiere has this issue with. The countless other files in that same video all output fine without a red screen in sight.

[Tero Ahlfors]

[david payne] “Could you explain what that tick box does and confirm i should have it checked when exporting?”

The use previews-setting uses your sequence preview files when rendering.

[david payne] “The countless other files in that same video all output fine without a red screen in sight.”

Yeah but without any extra information I can’t help you in troubleshooting. It’s apparently file related and you should probably transcode it to a new file in some industry standard format.

[Tim Vaughan]

I see this whenever I export a sequence with captions to mxf op1a. 99% of the time, it’s just a single movie on track 1 with captioning on tracks 2, 3. There isn’t any media to be offline, nor have their been any errors in the render save the yellow checkmark at the end of render. Absolutely no idea, and if you don’t see anything wrong with your completed export, chalk it up to Adobe being Adobe…

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Tim Vaughan
Production Editor and Motion Graphics, PBS Charlotte
Charlotte, NC

[David Payne]

interesting development… The new adobe media encoder actually warns me (see pic) about an offline file. Now, this is GREAT and I am really happy about this update but it doesnt help me work out how on earth its happening in the first place. All files are identical from the A7Sii so surely if it was a file format issue, all should not work, not just one?

yup, i cant work out how to upload the image, but adobe media encoder tells me 06.mp4 is offline.

Problem is I have 8 folders all of which contain an 06.mp4 (all from different sd cards)

[David Payne]

ok so I have stumbled across a workaround.

I unticked “Import sequences natively” in the AME general preferences and the file exported fine without any warnings or media offline graphics.

[Todd Perchert]

I was going to suggest not sending to AME and just export from the settings dialog in PPro.
It will tie up PPro while rendering, but that has gotten me past some weird issues when I needed to.
TC