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Media Manager Trouble
Hi All
I am having a little trouble with Media Manager. I am trying to have it delete unused media, but it doesn’t seem to be working.
One of the example capture workflows the Final Cut manual gives is:
Capture an entire tape;
Create subclips out of the tape you want to use;
Use media manager to delete the unused parts of the tape in your hard drive.For me though, it is refusing to do this. Here is what I do:
Create the subclips I want
Delete the master file in the FCP browser
Highlight the desired subclips;
Go to media manager and select the following settings:
“Use Existing” media referenced by dupliate clips
“Delete unused media from duplicated clips”This is what the manual says it should do:
“The Media Manager creates a new media file for each selected subclip and reconnects each subclip to the new media file. The original media file is deleted, so any subclips not selected become offline.”However it doesn’t do anything for me.
I can tell there is a problem though because when I select the clips, in Media Manager it says in the “Original” bar–12.3gb. In the “Modified” it also says 12.3 gb. Even though the new files should be significantly less than that!
I have done this before so Im kind of confused. I even called apple for Technical Assistance (I have the 90-day support), and they couldn’t help me. My boss is getting pissed off at me for wasting my time with it, because he doesnt thing its going to work, so any advice would be highly useful!
Thank you all again
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[John Felt] “My boss is getting pissed off at me for wasting my time with it, because he doesnt thing its going to work, so any advice would be highly useful! “
Your boss is a wise man John. Media Managing unused space is far from perfect in FCP and you should drop it. Get on with creative work for boss. Hard drives are very cheap these days, but your time and benefits are not.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
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Thank you very much for the advice.
This is actually much more about time and our workflow than about hard drive space. For reasons I dont have space to go into, if we can’t get it working, it actually means significantly more work in the capturing phase. So I’d rather take the time now to get it.
Anyone out there have similar experience, success, advice?
I went back to my machine with FCP 5 and it did what I wanted to no problem.
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No need to delete anything. Try this: Edit the subclips into a sequence and then media mange that sequence using delete unused media. Turn off affiliates and all references. Since version 6 I’ve never had any issues with Media Manager. But I do hate the way Final Cut Pro handles Sub Clips.
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Thanks Sean.
That didnt seem to do the trick either.
Update though! I can get it to work with other footage in my project. I can’t figure out though what the difference is that it makes it work for one item and not the other.
The footage it is working for is HDV stuff, whereas the footage that it cant work for is footage I used captured directly from VHS. I can’t imagine that makes a difference though.
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Timecode John. VHS has none…
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los AngelesPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.
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Ahhhh Yes TIMECODE and the lack of a REEL number is your problem. Nothing for Final Cut Pro to use as a reference for calculating the clips. Can you try and add a REEL no. to the clip and see if that makes any difference?
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Hmmmmm…..
A few things. Definitely that makes sense to me. But two things that perhaps you might be offer some help with/thoughts on:
1) Even though the VHS has no tc, when it captures, it creates time code for the file no? For example, there are in and out times that I can enter. But does that not count as “true” time code?
2) If it does not, and that is the crucial difference…. Does anyone have any thoughts on whether there might be a way around this?
I could go first to DV, and then import. But if there is any other thoughts, please pass them along!
Thank you all for the help so far!
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You are right. FCP will add timecode. This is why I suggest creating a REEL no. It seems to be the key. I just imported an animation file. Selected only 1 second of it. Made a subclip. Selected Copy and delete unused media. NO CHANGE. Added a reel no to the clip. Selected the same sub clip in the bin, went to Media Manger with the same setting and there is a dramatic difference in the length of the clip.
Try that.
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Yes, FCP must see a Reel number otherwise it will not trim down the clip.
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Hi,
FCP will show you what looks like timecode but the actual file has no timecode track. COMMAND J in quickitme will show you what tracks are present in the quicktime file.
As the people say add a reel number in FCP which will add a timecode track to the quicktime file (providing you have write permissions to the file itself).
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