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Media Manager issue
Posted by Adam Weinberg on February 16, 2006 at 7:30 pmStrange issue running Final Cut 4.5 using the Media Manager. This has happend continually using different projects — sometimes when I go into the media manager it displays no difference in size between the original and media managed versions of the project I’m working with. I’ve made sure I’m only selecting the particular sequence I want to be media managed.
The strange part is that if I copy the sequence from one project to a new (otherwise empty) project, the media managed version’s size will accurately reflect its being cut down. This workaround often works, but not always. Anyone run into any similar situations?
thanks,
Adam Weinberg
David Bogie replied 20 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies -
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David Bogie
February 16, 2006 at 9:47 pmMedia Manager is a waste of time, dangerously inept programming.
Your experience is shared by most of us but that won’t stop anyone who has successfully used MM to tell you it’s all your fault, or mine. Keep clicking on the option buttons and see what happens. Use a practice project.My advice is always: Use Media Manager but not to depend on the results. Test the results, never assume it is accurate.
bogiesan
This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”
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Adam Weinberg
February 16, 2006 at 10:22 pmThanks for the response, I had read and heard similar things prior to making the post. If someone HAS particularly experienced this, however, please get in touch as this would help me out a great deal. I appreciate it
cheers,
Adam Weinberg
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Jeremy Garchow
February 16, 2006 at 10:59 pmCan you give some more information? What were you trying to do? Was the media online from the project that you are media managing from? Fcp likes the media to be online, if not, it has trouble trimming what you need. Pretty stupid on FCPs part.
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Adam Weinberg
February 17, 2006 at 2:03 amAll the media is online. With the nature of the project, everything was digitized at full-res, and there’s a lot of unnecessary footage taking up space. I’m simply trying to back up my project for storage without it having to take up however many dozen gigabytes the full project takes up.
I know a properly media managed version of the project should take up a third of the space the full one does, but for whatever reason FCP HD thinks everything is necessary, and the suposed media managed version takes up the identical space to the original.
I have tried checking and unchecking all the different options in the media manager (include full master-clip, handles, etc.) to no avail. This happens all the time under very simple setups on which makes it all the more perplexing.
thanks,
Adam Weinberg
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Arnie Schlissel
February 17, 2006 at 4:28 pmA similar thing happened to me last week with a project that I was onlining. I simply ignored the display that showed me that the project would be the same size before & after because I had more than enough space on the RAID that I was capturing to. It turns out that MM was wrong about the estimated size, anyway.
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David Bogie
February 17, 2006 at 5:40 pm> The strange part is that if I copy the sequence from one project to a new (otherwise empty) project, the media managed version’s size will accurately reflect its being cut down. This workaround often works, but not always. Anyone run into any similar situations?< Yes, we have all run into similar situations. Some of us much worse. There is no known solution except trying exactly what you're doing. Figuring out a workaround. Trying it. Coping. Maybe complaining. There are many glitches in FCP that can be attributed or dismissed as "operator error". Media Manager isn't one of them, it's broken, it' bad design, it's bad programming, it is a feature that only works some of the time for some people. bogiesan This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”
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