Media Manager Error Code 14

[Jeremy Garchow]

Easy question, but do you have enough space on either of the drives?

[Paul Johnson]

Hi Jeremy,

The drive I’m copying from has 150GB available and the raid I’m copying to has 2TB available. I also tried deleting my preferences, to no avail.

FCP 6.0.1, G5 2.5 Quad, 8GB Ram,AJA Kona 3,AJA IoLA

[Jeremy Garchow]

Cool i was just grasping at straws, sorry if I’m getting in the way.

What are you trying to archive exactly? The finished timeline?

[Paul Johnson]

Yes, I’m archiving the finished timeline and deleting all unused media. I’m taking this project from about 85GB’s down to 5GB, but a few clips won’t copy. The master clips are large interviews. The interviews are all cut up in the timeline. So via media manager that large master clip has been chopped into several small clips. But one clip out of several of the interviews won’t copy, its says it can create a offline, but that doesn’t really help since I’m assuming I’d have to copy that large master clip over to the archive for it to link up. Sorry, long story, but its driving me crazy. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Billy

FCP 6.0.1, G5 2.5 Quad, 8GB Ram,AJA Kona 3,AJA IoLA

[John Pale]

Usually problems involve the file or clip name.

Try changing the name. If you have many clips derived from the same media file, FCP appends a number to the clip name for each one…but if the clip name is long, sometimes it gets truncated and the number gets “cut off” and you end up with naming issues.

[Jeremy Garchow]

I have a few ideas. First off, what Jon says is rightly true. Really long file names, more problems. If you choose to archive the way you are trying to do, and your situation pertains to what John has pointed out, an error code might happen. Maybe. I have never seen an error code using the Media Manager, so this is a bit of new territory for me. John, have you seen this before? There is no doubt in my mind that FCPs database system is a bit under-served and unforgiving in some areas, but for some reason it stays around, so either Apple doesn’t care because computers keep selling regardless of a database that doesn’t keep track of itself, or they have ideas for a better tomorrow and the current database is a foundation for what’s to come. The glass is either half empty or half full. I don’t know about any of that conjecture.

My first idea is to archive in a different way. They way I usually archive is to export a self contained quicktime in whatever format/codec the timeline is in. That way I have an exact copy of my timeline (bars and tone included). This is great for when two months down the line, someone asks for a couple of copies on tape, or a quick burn of a DVD. I can then remaster that movie. I also keep the non recpaturable elements around and copy those to disk as well. So, if you need to archive this timeline, simply export a self contained and backup all non recapturable elements. I realize that this may pose a bit of risk as you might need to make extremely subtle changes in a few months. It’s at that point that you reassess what your client needs and make the proper decision that fits their budget or lack there of.

So, maybe this isn’t good enough for you or doesn’t live up to your expectations, perhaps you prefer to keep a timeline around with handles so that you can make subtle changes without resorting the whole dang project. This is valid. In this case, what I would do is Media Manage a ‘create offlne’ project using the proper settings (just like I was going to do an online) and that way the MM will do it’s job and I will recapture just what I told it to. This will shake off all the unnecessary media and leave you with you you want. I would then backup that new project and all resulting media, leaving you with only what you need.

the next idea is flippant and suggestive. Hard drives are cheap. 120 Gig hardrives are really cheap. Get yourself a > 100Gig bare SATA drive, stick it in a spare hard drive slot in the G5 and back up the whole 85 Gigs along with the project and important files.

My next idea is to write Apple and tell them that thus far, FCP is great, but please make the MEdia Manager a simpler process for people who just want to get work done and move on to the next thing.

Jeremy

[John Pale]

[JeremyG] ” have never seen an error code using the Media Manager, so this is a bit of new territory for me. John, have you seen this before? “

Yes. Not sure what number is it was. I resolved it by re-naming the media file to something else.

[JeremyG] “the next idea is flippant and suggestive. Hard drives are cheap. 120 Gig hardrives are really cheap. Get yourself a > 100Gig bare SATA drive, stick it in a spare hard drive slot in the G5 and back up the whole 85 Gigs along with the project and important files.”

Agreed.

[Paul Johnson]

Thanks guys, its all working now. It was a naming issue, but not long names. I never noticed before but the lower thirds which were .mov’s had the same name as the master clips(the interviewee’s name), but were in a different folder so I never had issues until MM tried to create new clips.

Thanks for your help. I agree with the hard drive solution and I normallly do that but right now I’m sitting on 10+ bare drives of several year old pojects and I’m trying to consolidate. I probably don’t need the timeline anymore since I already have a QT, but I like to keep stuff.

Thanks again,
Billy

FCP 6.0.1, G5 2.5 Quad, 8GB Ram,AJA Kona 3,AJA IoLA

[John Pale]

[Billy Johnson] “I never noticed before but the lower thirds which were .mov’s had the same name as the master clips(the interviewee’s name), but were in a different folder so I never had issues until MM tried to create new clips. “

Yeah. MM puts everything in one folder called “Media”….the duplicate file name would then become a problem, whereas before you had them separated and it worked fine. I wish FCP were smart enough to deal with the situation by auto-renaming or something (perhaps a preference….”resolve filename conflicts by: A-ask me, B-automatically, C-never”)

[Bill Lynn]

This sounds crazy, but it works. Exclude any spaces or funny characters in the file name you’re creating. When you put spaces in the filename using Media Manager Export, you get error code 14. When you don’t put spaces in the filename using Media Manager export, you get a normal processing export.

Appalling but true.