Media 100 in a TV Station

[Michael Todd thorpe]

Hey Jeremy, give me a call sometime… I’d like to meet face to face… Ask for Todd.

Michael Todd Thorpe
Producer/Director
KUVI TV45

2 M100i’s, 1 M100HDe, 1 M100HDx,

[Michael Todd thorpe]

Forgot to mention, I’d like to talk about a scheme to move spots around town tapeless…

Todd

Michael Todd Thorpe
Producer/Director
KUVI TV45

2 M100i’s, 1 M100HDe, 1 M100HDx,

[Jeremy Rowell]

I have 3 Media 100’s patched to a router along with 2 DVCAM DSR-80 decks and a Beta BVW-70. We lay off our spots on BetaSP and then Redig to the server. With the new company taking over soon, I’m trying to get my ducks in a row, and be prepared to do things differently. I fear my beloved Media 100’s will be making an exit… I think the new company prefers FCP. Bummer

Jeremy Rowell
Production Manager
KBAK-TV KBFX-CA

[Chris Clephane]

RE: Archiving P2 footage.

FIRST:
Over here, the IT route (We tried DL-DVD, Blu-ray and DLT) became burdensome for archiving raw P2 footage, so we use what I call the “FCP method” of archiving.

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NOW:
We simply open all the P2 images for a project into a fresh FCP session, drag the footage into a timeline and offlay it via Firewire to our DVCPRoHD deck. (no recompression cycle…stays codec native.)

P2 to tape–no loss. (Just original timecode lost.)

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You can do the exact same thing from within Media100….outputting all footage from a timeline via HD-SDI, but there IS a generation loss/recompression cycle when you do it that way. In our opinion, the “loss” is exceedingly minimal.
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DOWNSIDE: Still not faster than realtime transfer.
The other downside is the loss of original timecode…if that is critical to your work.
(You are re-striping when you transfer to tape..) Unless someone knows how to output P2 video from a FCP timeline with original source clip timecode intact to tape…(anybody?)

UPSIDE: DVCPRO Tapes are cheaper than the IT-based high-capacity DLT’s we were previously attempting to use for archive.
-And video-tapes make it a heck of a lot easier to access single shots later (quickly) if needed.
-AND we can pick up the tapes at a moments notice and ship them to clients if needed, etc.
-And…our DVCProHD deck was paid for a long time ago and will last us an estimated 7-10 years (obviously we ar enot a dubbing house!).
Due to the nature of the Data Archiving industry…Our Data tapes/drives always seem to be outdated within a year or two. (DLT seems to double its capacity every two years…necessitating upgrade envy and the constant potential for non-backwards compatibility. Don’t believe me…just try reading a VS80 DLT in a newer 200/300/600 drive….its sketchy at best…)
For these reasons and others….we have deemed our (well-maintained) video decks to be a better long-term investment than data archiving gear.

[Chris Clephane]

Ok…one last workflow admission/clarification.

We DO archive our completed, TRIMMED & SLIMMED projects to DLT. But only the necessary footage/FX/GFX, etc to make that program play when restored.
If we make changes later..it usually just requires an additional clip or two…so we will then pull/redig. from tape. Make the correction/addition and re-archive the project to DLT.

RAW footage stays on DVCProHD.

Anyways, that’s our current workflow. If that helps anyone…great…if not…well thanks for listening anyways.

-C

I edit video. I post sometimes.
I fix things. I eat marshmallows.
I play drums. I drink scotch.
I like TV.

Done typing now.

-Me

[Michael Todd thorpe]

Thanks for the info…

Yes, I’ve been down the DLT road and been burned. Now I archive to DVD-r. I clean all unnecessary video out of the project including graphics renders (those can always be re-rendered)… BUT – that does not deal with the implications of P2, I’m still on DVCPro50 for the time being…

Todd

Michael Todd Thorpe
Producer/Director
KUVI TV45

2 M100i’s, 1 M100HDe, 1 M100HDx,

[Michael Todd thorpe]

I hear you, Jeremy. Could be worse, they could want you to edit on a PC… The good thing is your systems are up, running and paying for themselves… That’s one one your side.

Todd

Michael Todd Thorpe
Producer/Director
KUVI TV45

2 M100i’s, 1 M100HDe, 1 M100HDx,