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  • MC6 new features… favorites? disappointments? predictions?

    Posted by Hector Berrebi on November 4, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    ok… most of us haven’t used it yet

    we can still praise or knock the new features 🙂

    i think the new DNX (4:4:4 flavor) is amazing news. a long waited addition to the DNX family and if its as predicted (2:1 ratio…) then ProRes 4×4 (suddenly apples need to add a fourth “4” seems silly, DNX always supported alpha and Avid never made a big deal out of it) is in for tough competition…
    i wonder if like ProRes it will support a 12 bit color depth… (though 10 bit is far enough for most uses)

    and i wonder how fast ARRI ALEXA will offer this option

    also happy about AVCHD support in AMA. we’re getting more and more projects shot on that format and transcoding it is a hassle. and as a teacher it will be nice to finally tell my students that the format they use most is fully supported.

    I/O freedom was expected… but is still very exciting. intensity and decklink cards run for 200-300$.
    being able to monitor video and audio from avid in these price ranges is like post production sci-fi …

    that’s without mentioning 64 bits…

    lol… with the free auto-duck tools released recently, there’s a Christmas morning feel to it all 🙂

    on the other hand… i believe MC6 will still have resolution as a project setting, not a sequence setting. which for me, was always a weak spot. (not being able to see 1080 clips on an SD timeline as 1080 clips reduced to 40%, and not being able to scale them back to 100% in the SD boundaries, maintaining original quality etc’)

    also wonder if AMA got more stability, and lost a few sticky bugs it had…

    all in all… this seems like a great upgrade for Avid editors,
    and with recent less favorable upgrades of other editing apps…

    just feels like saying

    🙂 thanks avid

    add your thought…

    hector

    Hector Berrebi
    prePost Consulting

    Justin Barham replied 14 years, 5 months ago 12 Members · 25 Replies
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  • Grinner Hester

    November 4, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    Smart tool, 3D capability, and the now vast file format choices and the way late open IO capabilities are what I find digable.
    Lets hope one can rotate some text in the DVE without the ailiasing from 1995. lol

  • Shane Ross

    November 4, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    Well first off, here’s my review of MC6 (shameless plug):

    https://lfhd.net/2011/11/03/the-more-open-avid-media-composer-6-0/

    [Hector berrebi] “i believe MC6 will still have resolution as a project setting, not a sequence setting.”

    True…settings are still project based.

    [Hector berrebi] “also wonder if AMA got more stability, and lost a few sticky bugs it had… “

    AMA is a LOT more stable. Works great with many formats…improved performance with a lot. But not DSLR. H.264 is just a bear of a codec. Get out of it when you can.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Hector Berrebi

    November 4, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    [Shane Ross] “AMA is a LOT more stable. Works great with many formats…improved performance with a lot. But not DSLR. H.264 is just a bear of a codec. Get out of it when you can.

    damn DSLR codec…
    i always tell my students when they complain against Avid, to first blame their expectations that working with a cheap video-like camera would be a smooth ride, second blame Canon for choosing such a lousy implementation of the codec, and last blame avid… or any software for not doing enough..

    and yet… disappointing to hear that the new version with 64 bit support still chokes on 264…

    BTW… really good review Shane 🙂

    thanks

    hector

    Hector Berrebi
    prePost Consulting

  • Shane Ross

    November 4, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    If the students want to shoot with DSLR video, and MUST work native, then use Adobe Premiere Pro…on a beefy machine with a BEEFY Nvidia card that will enable CUDA. Because it’s smooth on PPRo CS 5.5…and mainly because of 64 bit and that Mercury Engine enabled by CUDA. It takes A LOT to get native H.264 editing possible.

    Just tell them NOT to edit that format native. I think people are getting spoiled with “native” editing anyway…

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Chris Harlan

    November 4, 2011 at 4:55 pm

    [Shane Ross] “Well first off, here’s my review of MC6 (shameless plug):

    https://lfhd.net/2011/11/03/the-more-open-avid-media-composer-6-0/

    [“

    Good review! Thanks.

  • Hector Berrebi

    November 4, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    [Shane Ross] “, then use Adobe Premiere Pro”

    🙂 kind of hard, they’re Avid students in an Avid course

    instead they learn the good old values of transcoding, and working with a unifying codec like DNX.

    if only Avid found their way to mercury-engine-up stuff

    Hector Berrebi
    prePost Consulting

  • Dustin Parsons

    November 4, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    Wow, AVID is just now getting the ability to use tabs? That seems rather ridiculous. I dunno, nothing really jumps out at me and says, “THIS is why you should choose Avid over Premiere or FCPX.” I feel like all the updates were expected based on technological advances and there’s very little innovation – maybe they were too scared from the FCPX debacle to really try something new.

    I’m still a FCP 7 user wondering where to go next. Based on the content that I cut (web videos, 3-5 minutes) AVID just doesn’t seem like it would be as fast as the competition for me. This makes since, AVID wants to hold onto the broadcast market so they pour their time and resources into what they need, however, this leaves very little time for them to work on things that I need. The catch-22 is, I don’t want to be cutting web videos forever and unfortunately, every large company here in LA uses AVID so I feel like I have to learn it.

    I remember when going from AVID to Final Cut I initially hated Final Cut, but after about 3 weeks I couldn’t sit at an AVID station without thinking, “This feels klunky and old… why does it take me 3 more steps to do things that take 1 in FCP?” I certainly hope if I go back to AVID I don’t feel like I’m stepping back in time. I hope it’s awesome, I just can’t get excited about it…

  • Richard Sanchez

    November 4, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Regardless of whether it feels like your going back in time, there’s no doubt about it, jumping between the two systems will usually come with some adjustment.

    My recommendation, since you mentioned you don’t want to cut web videos forever, buy it, learn it, accept it. I started my career in Final Cut and when FCPx came out, I immediately started getting my chops back up in Avid. In some cases I agree with you, that things some clunky if Avid, and some things Avid has always done a far better job than FCP. Likewise, in my case I hate FCPx and haven’t devoted a ton of time to learning it. The fact of the matter is, I can hate it all I want but if industry trends start to favor it, then it will be worth learning. As it currently stands, Avid is unavoidable in the post world and very worth learning.

    Richard Sanchez
    North Hollywood, CA

    “We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution.” – Bill Hicks

  • Justin Barham

    November 5, 2011 at 12:39 am

    Dustin,

    Watching Avid trying to sell tabbed bins and 3rd party hardware support as new in 2011 is definitely awkward at best. And one can’t help but read fear into what is likely the most timid UI upgrade in the history of software design. No I don’t want FCP X, but I’m not aiming to cut episodes of Seinfeld either. 🙂

    However, having switched from FCP myself, I can say Avid was clearly the right choice for me. Unfortunately for them, the features that make it so much better to use are really hard to sell. Little things like stability with long sequences and big projects, rock solid multicam and media management, fluid trimming, etc.

    Ultimately, choosing between Avid and Premiere comes down to where you want to work in the future. Bite the bullet and learn whatever it is that they use. I know it’s a cliché, but it’s just a tool.

    – Justin Barham –

  • Job Ter burg

    November 5, 2011 at 9:15 am

    Again, AFAIK RGB 444 is uncompressed, not 2:1.

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