MBE x64 Drivers – Has anybody Probs,too ?

[Miles Blow]

Hi Oliver
Hey read our thread a few posts down. Unfortunatly for us and you it looks the a8nsli motherboard is not going to let the disply driver work. Did you get it to work with earlier mbe drivers? We were able to run the mbe in premiere AE7 combustion and photoshop….But the only way we could do this was by letting the graphics card(asus x1900xt) set itself to vga mode only. Gene has suggested that the only way he was able to get it working was to use a pci graphics card with nothing on the pci-express but the mbe.

What has tech support said to you?

[Newjack]

Hi Guys,

to reply: The ASUs A8N32-SLI is a from BM recommend MB. The thing is that BM has still a little bit Probs with the x64 Diplay Drivers (only). On a 32bit Win it works perfectly ( the MBE and the new Decklink HD Extreme – we did some big “rascalities” on some big live TV Shows and it was perfect = Thanks BM!).
Look at a later Threat – Tyan MB had same Probs. It is not the A(N32-SLI Board.

I can

[Miles Blow]

Hi Oliver
We have been trying to get this sucker too work with any drivers! We have the 5.6 drivers in winxp 32 and we have had no luck with the either the x1900xt and today we tried to get a quadro fx to work and didnt have any luck. We tried an ancient pci graphics card aswell that still didnt work either. We are going to try another motherboard made by msi which is very similar to a8n32 but without the sli. Will let you know how that goes.

When you had it working did you definatly check that the graphics card drivers were installed correctly(with video desktop)? We got ours working in the programes but display properties in windows kept saying this display driver was written for an earlier version of windows.

It would definatly be good if this a8n32 motherboard would work, but I think anything that takes this much effort to install must be highly unreliable for doing high def editing. All our components are certified but they dont work properly.

thanks
Miles

[Gene Colburn — email address bounces notices]

Hi Oliver
I am glad you guys were able to get it working. All my posts were based on A variety of A8n (A8N, A8NE, A8N32, and A8n32 deluxe) motherboards, up until March of this year. You may well have a later rev board that works. But I can tell you emphatically there are people out there that will not get theirs working with MBe, and an Adobe certified PCIe graphics card. We tried every iteration of BIOS, drivers, Nvidia updates, XP, XP64, you name it. These boards rock with Adobe, and a PCIe card only. I did not profess to be the final authority on this issue however, but merely to let others know there may be some rocks in their path if they go down it.

Miles and Julles maybe there is hope for you guys with this board. I would certainly like someone from BM to clear this up for once and for all though. I have not found any posts where they have done so. It would be great to see an exact profile of a working system using the 32d. Or even Olivers for that matter.

Best Regards
Gene

[Newjack]

Hi all,

this a quote from another posting in this forum:
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Hi

Currently we are working on this issue and should have a driver to address this issue by next week.

In the mean time if you say no not at this time to the installation of the decklink display you will be able to continue to work with After Effects, Premiere Pro etc

Desktop display will be the only element not present.

To stop the message from reappearing – disable the device in the device manager.

any further questions email – pcsupport@blackmagic-design.com.

Andrew McLeod
Blackmagic Design
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Andrew is one member of support team of Blackmagic Design.

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So guys I think we should give BMD give a chance to solve this prob until end of next week.

I already included the press departement of BMD into my mailings with the BMD support desk.

I wanted make this clear the A8N32-SLI Boards are one of the best on the market AND THEY
ARE CERTIFIED by BMD FOR HIGH DEF

Look at this quotetation ( https://www.blackmagic-design.com/support/detail.asp?techID=47 ):
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Certified PCIe Motherboards for Standard Definition

INTEL PENTIUM DUAL CORE
Asus P5WD2 Premium
Intel D955XCS
Intel D975XBX
Supermicro X6DA8G2

AMD DUAL CORE
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe
Tyan Thunder K8WE (S2895)

Certified PCIe Motherboards for High Definition

INTEL DUAL CORE
Supermicro X6DA8G2
Intel D955XCS
Intel D975XBX

AMD DUAL CORE
Tyan Thunder K8WE (S2895)
Asus A8N 32-SLI Deluxe
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So this was the reason why we build up 5 Edits with this Hardware. And on the NAB BMD told us that the MBE will work with this Motherboards, too

It doesn

[Miles Blow]

Hi gene
When you were working on your a8n32 (with MBE)were you getting the same driver error where if you went into display properties, windows would say that its drivers were writen for an earlier version of windows and that it would set its display to default vga. Is that what you were getting?

I’m just trying to see if both our boards were trying to do the same thing ith mbe installed.
(seems like the pci-e chipset doesnt know how to use the 4lane pci-e and the 16x graphics at the same time.

thanks
Miles

[Gene Colburn — email address bounces notices]

[miles and Jules] “(seems like the pci-e chipset doesnt know how to use the 4lane pci-e and the 16x graphics at the same time.”

That is exactly the problem. As far as error message, no I did not get that specific one. The drivers registered correctly in device manager, but display properties did not show it as an active device.

[Miles Blow]

Hi gene
I guess too with the display driver not registering there would be no open gl graphics performance in after effects
Do you think the k8we driver display fix that blackmagic are working on would have anything to do with the a8n32? They both seem very different boards altogether.

thanks
Miles

[Miles Blow]

Ok We got it working!
We installed windows 64 with the a8n-32 motherboard and our asus x1900tx graphics. We installed everything a few times especially the 6.5 driver and the graphics card drivers. We then disabled (but not uninstalled) the decklink display driver and sure enough it worked. No desktop over to our editing monitor(no big Deal) but the monitor does work from within all aplications. Cool !!! Also with 4x 300gb sata2 drives stripped we are getting 235mb/sec write and 256mb/sec read. Which seems pretty fast to me. It was a bit of a battle but we finally it up and running. We had almost lost hope with this board. We are currently doing some heavy rendering so we can put it throgh its paces.

our computer
motherboard A8n-32 deluxe
cpu 4800+
ram 4gb transend ddr400 (window can only see 2.9gb unfortunatly)
asus x1900tx
multibridge extreme 5.5 win 64 driver.
1.1tb (4x 300gb sata sata raid onboard nvidia raid

Just thought I would list the specs for anyone else with our motherboard just in case they are having any problems.

thanks Blackmagic for comeing up with this work around. Hope the display driver issue is fixable but for now we are happy!!!

Miles and Jules
http://www.wombokforest.com.au

[Newjack]

Hi,all

Heres BMD solution:

Please have a look at, too: https://www.blackmagic-design.com/support/detail.asp?techID=160

The short version is that customers should not use more than 3 GB of
RAM with 64-bit versions of Windows and that most customers should
continue using 32-bit versions of Windows. The DeckLink and Multibridge
Minimum System Requirements support pages have also been updated to
advise a maximum of 3 GB of RAM.

Having said that, we would urge most customers to continue using 32-bit
versions of Windows as the 64-bit versions are really only of use to
some developers. Applications such as Premiere Pro and After Effects
are 32-bit applications and will run more slowly on a 64-bit version of
Windows and there are absolutely no benefits to doing this.

We regard the use of 64-bit versions of Windows, with commercial video
software and Blackmagic hardware, as something to avoid as there are no
benefits and in fact there is likely to be performance degradation. The
only early adopters who should need to use 64-bit versions of Windows
will be some developers.

The reason for releasing 64-bit Windows versions of our drivers was to
make some developers happy. However we are hearing from customers who
have mistakenly assumed that there is something “better” about the
64-bit versions of Windows and are now running in to problems with lack
of support, for mainstream video applications, and also instability
with more than 3 GB of RAM.

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We tried it with 3GB and now it works perfectly – and I think BMD will work on it. Because there are a lot of compositors outside who needs more than 3GB.

Cheers,
Oliver