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  • MB Extreme (MB-X)

    Posted by Av on December 20, 2005 at 6:27 am

    I have been waiting almost a year to buy a BM product. Last year I was going to by the first MB-HD system and eventually realized it did not exist. Then this year at NAB I read about the MB-x and figured I would get that. Now that it is shipping, I have a few questions:

    1. Do I understand correctly that it will not work with ANY Macs except for the new ones with “express” slots? Surly they have a PCI-X card…….surley.
    2. If it won’t work with my old and lame dual G5 2.7 with 4.5 GB ram, I don’t think am interested. So….what are the trade off’s if I decided to get the original MB (which now comes with a decklink card)? I won’t get the DVI out (whick I assume is like a HDLink), anything else?

    Thanks

    Sean Oneil replied 20 years, 4 months ago 7 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Sean Oneil

    December 20, 2005 at 7:41 am

    I would contact a sales person since it seems you’re looking for someone to convince you of something.

    All the info you’ve asked for is here:
    https://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/multibridge/

    More audio channels, DVI, and possibly better A/D conversion than the older MB. And yes, there is a solution for your lame old Mac. There is an adapter card for PCI-X slots which may or may not be shipping yet. There’s even a picture of it if on the right hand side if you scroll down just a little bit.

    Sean

  • Av

    December 20, 2005 at 4:42 pm

    It seems the solution is:
    1. Buy a new G5
    2. Wait 6 months +++ (for PCI-X card)
    3. Go with AJA

    Why can’t this be easy! 🙂

  • Av

    December 20, 2005 at 7:21 pm

    I was just informed that the card shipping with the MultiBridge Express is the “bridge” card. This is a PCI-X card and this WILL work for all older G5’s and NOT the new G5’s (PCI-express versions).

    Can someone please confirm?

    The BM web site is confusing becuase it has so much info on PCI express and how great it is BUT that is NOT what it actually ships with??????

    Question: Is there any loss of speed/functionality in the MB-E when using a PCI-X as a host card?

  • Kristian Lam

    December 21, 2005 at 12:19 am

    Hi,

    The card that is shipping with the Multibridge Extreme is a PCI-Express (PCIe) card. It is not PCI-X. It will only work in the PCIe Power Mac G5s.

    regards

    Kristian
    Blackmagic Design

  • Av

    December 21, 2005 at 6:23 am

    You have some really mis-informed dealers………OR……….he wanted to sell me something that I couldn’t use.

    So I guess I’m back to square one – BM doesn’t have a product for me.

  • Gunleik Groven

    December 21, 2005 at 9:02 am

    Sorry for raising this question again, but over at BM You anounce a PCI-x to PCIe adapter.
    Is it really true that this will take 6 months to ship?

    Gunleik

  • Chris Borjis

    December 21, 2005 at 11:20 pm

    I’m about ready to purchase a MultiBridge Extreme myself and will definitely need this answered soon.

    Luke?

  • Sean Oneil

    December 22, 2005 at 8:28 am

    AV, give it a rest. You’re acting as if you’re entitled to have a Multibridge Extreme work on your PCI-X Mac. What you’re failing to realize is that the MAJOR difference between the Multibridge and the Multibridge Extreme is the very fact that it’s PCIe. PCIe has several advantages. It’s faster and it’s cheaper to make. So the Extreme is a new product to take advantage of it. The Extreme will work on new Macs and it allows more Windows PCs to work because very few of them ever had PCI-X slots.

    Since you have a PCI-X Mac, guess what? The major advantage of the Extreme isn’t for you. You don’t really need it. You can achive the same thing by getting a Decklink HD, an HDLink, and a regular Multibridge:

    https://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/multibridgeconverter/

    Sean

  • Gunleik Groven

    December 22, 2005 at 10:02 am

    I had a nice mail from BM. Seems the chip that does the PCI-X to PCIe trick is delayed. Maybe it’ll be here in march. Bad news is better than no news.

    [Sean ONeil]
    Since you have a PCI-X Mac, guess what? The major advantage of the Extreme isn’t for you. You don’t really need it. You can achive the same thing by getting a Decklink HD, an HDLink, and a regular Multibridge:”

    HM. How do you know? -;)

    In my case there are two big and one small thing holding me off your suggestion, but if there are workarounds I’ll be very happy!

    1. Currently I’m on PCI-X, but I can foresee myself mjoving to PCIe within a year. It would be nice to leave the PCI-X Mac in the sound studio and move the new PCIe to the post-lab without having to buy everything Decklink once more.

    2. The “Studio” has 8 audio outs (maybe even 16, if you can use the AES/EBU in paralell).

    This means that one can mix surround and HD in the same studio – with a Nuendo/Cubase and FCP studio/Shake solution.

    That’s pretty nice… -;)

    The small thing:
    2k
    I’m in dialogue with some film people who are looking for a place to post 2k.
    This might not happen, but if it does… I’ll need the Studio.

    Why don’t you need it?

    -;)

    Cheers!
    Gunleik

  • Kaspar Kallas

    December 22, 2005 at 1:05 pm

    You do know that 2K currently is not implemented….

    -Kaspar

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