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  • Maxon + Mograph + Tutorials = 0

    Posted by Craig Shields on May 19, 2006 at 3:51 pm

    Okay I downloaded the 9.6 demo and have been playing with the Mograph module everyday and I got nothing! I just don’t understand why Maxon won’t put video tutorials up on their site. You go to every other 3D app’s site and find tons of tuts. I’m sure they could sell a lot more copies if they did that. If anyone from Maxon monitors this forum, please post a bunch of tutorials on your site to help those of us graphic artists who are trying to get their head around this program while continuing to make a living. And don’t hide them either. Put a big fat button on the home page that screams TUTORIALS!

    Okay I’m done. Back to making a living.

    -Craig

    Chris Smith replied 19 years, 11 months ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Björn Marl

    May 19, 2006 at 5:58 pm

    I agree that the Demo is short on stuff, but the module is the first Maxon product to be delivered on DVD and that is for a reason 🙂

    Cheers
    Bj

  • Craig Shields

    May 19, 2006 at 9:41 pm

    I get what your saying Bj

  • Björn Marl

    May 20, 2006 at 4:26 pm

    The problem is that those tutorials take up a huge amount of space, online distribution would be very expenisive. Also the MoGraph module is very easy to use, anyone generaly interested in it will have a good idea on how valuable it is for him within a very short time
    Cheers
    Bj

  • Craig Shields

    May 20, 2006 at 8:26 pm

    I’ll have to disagree with you on those points. I just hope that Maxon will follow the lead of the other 3-D sites that seem to have the bandwidth to post tutorials to help you get started.

    -Craig

  • Mylenium

    May 21, 2006 at 4:54 pm

    [Craig Shields] “I’ll have to disagree with you on those points. I just hope that Maxon will follow the lead of the other 3-D sites that seem to have the bandwidth to post tutorials to help you get started.

    -Craig”

    Yepp, I agree, online distribution is no big deal these days. It should be no problem for a company of the digital age to adapt to that.

    To elaborate a little: Maxon’s FTP simply sux and is terribly slow. Even the normal website takes forever. Doing a trace you get even timeouts. You should definitely improve your hosting. And sorry to bash you: Cost is no excuse. You can get dedicated webservers with unlimited traffic for 99,- Euros for private people (which you, coming from DE as well, probably even know) and I’d say in that light 300,- EUR a month for a company such as yours isn’t too much to ask for.

    That aside, as a regular downloader of the demos I have to say it’s frustrating to not have any decent docs. I’ve been a C4D user in the past (up to v8; may become a user again as soon as I have the money) and I know they are excellent, but keep wondering why you withhold them from potential new users, making it harder for them to decide for C4D. It’s nearly impossible to get the hang of modules such as Sketch and Toon or Hair without any docs and all you are doing is driving users to the P2P networks where they can download them (along with a cracked version of C4D – how convenient). In the end, you are only damaging your own business.

    Mylenium

    [Pour Myl

  • Adam Trachtenberg

    May 21, 2006 at 11:11 pm

    [Mylenium] “That aside, as a regular downloader of the demos I have to say it’s frustrating to not have any decent docs.”
    Maybe this will help? 🙂 https://www.maxon.net/pages/download/download_documentation_e.html

    Also, Tim Clapham did a nice MoGraph tutorial you can check out here: https://www.hypa.tv/tims/download.html

    And I did a very basic video tutorial you can view here: https://www.3danvil.com/Mograph/mograph_mostbasic.html

  • Mylenium

    May 22, 2006 at 5:26 am

    Oops, sincerest apologies then… How could I have missed that? *slapshimselfforbeingstupid*. ;o) You still need to sort out the speed issues, though. 32 kb on some occasions ain’t too sexy. Just lucky its early morning now and the server’s flying.

    Mylenium

    [Pour Myl

  • Björn Marl

    May 22, 2006 at 6:40 am

    Maxon uses several dedicated servers with load balancing that are connected via 100MBit for hosting the demo and documentation. On release dates additional servers (on other locations) are used.
    Including all video tutorials would double the load.
    The

  • Mylenium

    May 22, 2006 at 7:28 am

    [Bj

  • Chris Smith

    June 1, 2006 at 4:18 am

    [Mylenium] “I also noticed that connections are closed prematurely, resulting in damaged and unusable files. Definitely something fishy going on from my POV.”

    I get the same.

    Chris Smith
    https://www.sugarfilmproduction.com

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