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  • Maximum slug duration

    Posted by Rolfe Klement on August 20, 2005 at 10:42 am

    I might be doing something stupid – but if I add a text slug to the timeline I am unable to make it longer than 2 min long – even if I go into proerties and manually type a longer time

    Thanks

    Rolfe

    Chris Poisson replied 20 years, 8 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    August 20, 2005 at 11:38 am

    That’s the maximum length for a still image in FCP. If you need it to be longer, simply apply another slug or slugs until you have it the length you need.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Gary Adcock

    August 20, 2005 at 1:59 pm

    [Walter Biscardi] “That’s the maximum length for a still image in FCP. If you need it to be longer, simply apply another slug or slugs until you have it the length you need.”

    Remember!!
    that the items that FCP generates (Bars, slugs text) may not necessarily match the timebase of your timeline – FCP does not like to generate Drop Frame content, only Non Drop when working with interlaced footage.

    ( Nay sayers — drop default bars and tone into a DV or HDV timeline and look at the result it will be too long.)

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD and Film Consultation

  • Chris Poisson

    August 20, 2005 at 2:14 pm

    Gary,

    Not saying nay, but why would that matter? I’ve never percieved a problem from this.

    And Walter, I could swear I saw a post here recently that told how to get around the time limit, think it had someting to do with setting the duration numerically in the viewer though I can’t remember exactly…Anyone???

  • Jerry Hofmann

    August 20, 2005 at 2:23 pm

    You can set the Duration column in the Browser to be longer on any still… Just click on it and set a new length.
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  • Chris Poisson

    August 20, 2005 at 2:45 pm

    Hey Jerry,

    In the back of my mind, I knew the answer came from you, thanks for the assurance I wasn’t seeing things!!!

  • Rolfe Klement

    August 20, 2005 at 6:31 pm

    thanks

  • Walter Biscardi

    August 21, 2005 at 11:00 am

    [Jerry Hofmann] “You can set the Duration column in the Browser to be longer on any still… Just click on it and set a new length.”

    Thanks Jerry, forgot about that one.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
    https://www.biscardicreative.com

    Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

    Now editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Gary Adcock

    August 21, 2005 at 2:21 pm

    [Chris Poisson] “ot saying nay, but why would that matter? I’ve never percieved a problem from this. “

    gee chris
    when you are working on Network or Cable programming you cannot be a “couple of frames off” on timing. it’s like being a “little bit pregnant” — they will reject your tape for broadcast.

    For professionals that use FCP’s slugs or text for filler are consistently having timing issues when laying back to tape.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD and Film Consultation

  • Bouncing Account needs new email address

    August 21, 2005 at 8:04 pm

    DF and NDF has nothing to do with LENGTH in any way.
    The FRAMES are never “dropped”… only the NUMBERING SYSTEM is altered.
    (i.e. A frame NUMBER is dropped.)

    This issue is always confusing.

    A 29:50:00 program is always 29:50:00 in length on the STOPWATCH regardless of what the numbers on the timeline say.

    If you use a timeline to judge the LENGTH of a show, you can be very mistaken if you don’t take into account the difference between DF and NDF NUMBERS (think of them as frame “addresses”.)

    That’s why the IS a DF TC… it COMPENSATES the TC numbers to MATCH the stopwatch reading so a 29:50:00 show’s end read 29:50:00 on the timecode.

    A real-world analogy:
    If you live in the “third house on the left from the corner” of your street, the location of the HOUSE won’t change (nothing “physically” changes) if the city decides to change the street address.

    GOOD WORKAROUND when in doubt:
    If you mark an IN-point at the head of your show, segment, or clip… and and OUT-point at the end of your show, segment, or clip, you’ll see the true LENGTH of it in the DURATION window regardless of the timecode reading.

    Likewise, if FCP can generate a 2:00:00 slug, still, bars, etc. it will be identical in duration regardless of DF or NDF setting on the timecode.

  • Chris Poisson

    August 22, 2005 at 3:49 pm

    I had that same understanding Matte. I always work in DF and I put a marker on 01:00:00 and one at 01:29.29, and that seems to work fine, regardless of what stills etc. I put in the show.

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