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  • Matting moving text over an image

    Posted by Drayson Nowlan on June 29, 2009 at 7:05 am

    I have been trying several options and belive this must be simple, but I am missing how to create a matte for animated text.

    What I want to do it have text over an image and have the text appear that is is coming from behind an element in the image.

    For example, there is picture of a child sitting on a log, I want the text to animate over the image, but you only see the animated text after it passes the child’s arm. The end effect is the appearance that the text is coming from behind the child, but in front of the background. I hope that makes sense.

    Any ideas are greatly appreciated.

    Drayson Nowlan replied 16 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Captain Mench

    June 29, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    It makes sense.

    But you really want to do this in MOTION. FCP’s garbage mattes aren’t really that useful. They have minimal points, where you can build your own masks in Motion.

    Mess around in there and then come back if you still have issues.

    Mike

  • John Fishback

    June 29, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    Another way to do this (if the area where the text emerges is relatively vertical or horizontal) is by keyframing a crop. Assuming the text moves left as it emerges, line up the text in its final position and adjust the right crop to the right edge of the text. Drop a keyframe for the right crop and position of the text (in the Motion tab). Then move the text into its “hidden” position. Now, adjust the right crop to cover the text. FCP will automatically keyframe the new position and crop. After you watch the reveal, you might have to add a keyframe here and there to account for the talent moving. If the edge from which the text emerges is irregular you’ll have to use a matte.

    John

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  • Dennis Leppell

    June 29, 2009 at 4:57 pm

    forget FCP garbage mattes for this (and most applications)…they’re too limited.

    https://homepage.mac.com/tomhenderson/beziermatte/

    Tom’s 50 point Bezier matte. Make and/animate the matte exactly as you need it, curves and all. And, it’s free!

  • Drayson Nowlan

    June 30, 2009 at 6:27 am

    Thank you all for the input. Where I seem to missing something whether I use the 50 point garbage matte or crop or Motion is that if I apply the matte to the text, the matte stays in the same position as the text. So I tried to create a matte on the top level to block out the layers below, but I get no results. I just see a matte with no affect. This is selecting add, subtract, invert, etc. Basically I need the picture to be unaffected, but the text to be invisible as it passes under the matte.

    I would consider myself somewhat competent, but this one has got me.

    Thanks,

    Drayson

  • John Fishback

    June 30, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Here are 3 Cow Tutorials by Walter Biscardi. You should find your answers here:

    #1 https://library.creativecow.net/articles/biscardi_walter/FCPTravelMat1.php

    #2 https://library.creativecow.net/articles/biscardi_walter/FCPTravelMat2.php

    #3 https://library.creativecow.net/articles/biscardi_walter/FCPTravelMat3.php

    John

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    Final Cut Studio 2 (up to date)

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  • Dennis Leppell

    July 1, 2009 at 4:28 am

    my guess is you’re probably animating the the text with the motion tab. try keyframing the position in the control tab. That way, the layer, and thus the matte, stay in one place, but the text moves how you want.

  • Drayson Nowlan

    July 7, 2009 at 5:05 am

    Thank you all for the input but I am still at odds and think I may know what is going on.

    Backing up. I have a picture of a boy leaning on a roof with cedar shingles. i am trying to get his name to appear as it is coming out from under the shingle. To do this i have a text track in v3 with the text distorted to match the angle of the roof. I then have a mask in v2 that masks the roof line where the text comes out from under. I then have the photo in v1. What I think is occurring is the alpha of the text is overlapping the alpha in the mask when I apply the alpha properties to the text. Is there a way to tell FCP not to mix them? Or I must be missing something.

    Thank you again

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