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Marshall McLuhan on “Apple FCPX or Not: The Debate”
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[James Culbertson] “I have no issue with those who do not embrace “this new paradigm.” I’m curious why after 6 months they don’t move on and embrace some other paradigm of their choice. A friend has commented that I am being too rational; and that is probably true. But if we are in this business to be creative and make a profit, of what benefit is it to not just move on and use another tool that works for your creative endeavors?”
The cornerstone of your position seems to be based on this false assumption. Many people that don’t see FCP 10 as a good fit are moving on, or back, to Avid and Premiere Pro.
-Andrew
3.2GHz 8-core, FCP 6.0.4, 10.5.5
Blackmagic Multibridge Eclipse (6.8.1) -
[Andrew Kimery] “The cornerstone of your position seems to be based on this false assumption. Many people that don’t see FCP 10 as a good fit are moving on, or back, to Avid and Premiere Pro.”
Those who have truly moved on wouldn’t be here to read my question would they?
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[James Culbertson] “Some helpful quotes from Marshall McLuhan for those stuck in the looping mode of internet-based tribal paranoia on this forum”
I think my absolute favorite McLuhan quote comes from an interview transcript in Argh, Really?!, this year’s follow up to his 1970 masterpiece, From Cliché to Archetype. When asked how he felt about his maxims being used as pretentious fodder in silly arguments, he blithely replied, “You know, I’ve been dead, now, for over three decades, and it still blasts my chaps when toffy-heads toss around bits of my sayings to justify anything and everything under the sun. I’ve had a talk about it with both Einstein and Gandhi, and they feel the same way. Fenneman, too! And Schrödinger–he just steams and steams when New Agers use that cat thing to justify all kinds of Hoo-ha.”
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[Chris Harlan] “When asked how he felt about his maxims being used…”
Classy. But name-calling doesn’t do much to undermine what I am trying to say.
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[James Culbertson] “[Chris Harlan] “When asked how he felt about his maxims being used…”
Classy. But name-calling doesn’t do much to undermine what I am trying to say.
“As to name calling, I think we have a case of pot-kettle-black, my friend. I was just being a little less passive/aggressive about it. As to what you are “saying” I don’t see much there other than “Leave Brittany Alone!”
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On another note, James, I will add that I find your landscape photography exquisite.
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[James Culbertson] ”
Those who have truly moved on wouldn’t be here to read my question would they?”
Another incorrect assumption, IMO.Look beyond the still lingering “FCP 10 sucks / No it doesn’t” posts and you’ll find some very interesting discussions about the philosophy and mechanics of editing and how the NLE as we know it has been shaped. I have no desire to use FCP 10 in it’s current form and made the decision months ago to learn Premiere Pro and knock the rust off my Avid skills, but I still come here because there is almost always something interesting going on. At times I feel like this is the new Art of the Edit.
Feel free to add to the discussion. If you want you can even use your own words instead of Marshall McLuhan’s. 😉
-Andrew
3.2GHz 8-core, FCP 6.0.4, 10.5.5
Blackmagic Multibridge Eclipse (6.8.1) -
I don’t make my analyze from an armchair in an university and with a cigar in my hands.
I’m not afraid of learning new things (I’m doing that constantly) neither of taking risk (I challenge anybody to come and set a video shop where I am).I just think on what I have to win and what I have to lose with the new “paradigm” and “Apple business plan”.
I have nothing to win. Media managing or fast cutting are not my problems.
Mobility and being able to share projects are. FCPX makes my job just impossible.
I work on this since 25 years, so i don’t expect any “creative freedom” (as some newbies seem to do) coming from a FCPX or any other NLE. In fact my creative freedom will be humped for learning a new fashion to do the same things.What i have to lose?
All my investments.
I live in a place where the best credit I might get is a yearly 20%. I can dream of starting from zero.
If I’ve been able to put together my hardware and software is just because making videos (not just editing) is not only my job but my passion.I’m about to buy an iMac and with some Thunderbolt/eSATA adaptors so I’ll be able to keep using my eSATA raids and Monitor.
I’m not pressed to “move on”. I can keep working with FCP for a while. For me, the only thing FCP needed was taking advantage of all the processor and bugs fixed.First time I worked with a Mac was in 1988 (MACII publishing with Pagemaker) and the first i bought was a Quadra-8500 (1995). But I didn’t go Mac because I was any kind of visionary (now everybody want to be one). I went because they had the best hardware (at that time Apple wasn’t selling “visions of future” but things that worked).
I’m not in any kind of limbo, neither I come to this forum like a zombie or Smeagol in “The Lord of the Rings”.
I come because things are changing and this is the only place where things are debated.
This debate won’t change my needs in terms of tools, which in the end is what will determine my choice, but
(although some senseless statements and childish positions) this is the most comprehensive source of information to try to figure out what the future may bring.
During the last five years The COW has been my best source for learning new things.
Lets allow the philosophers enjoy their cigars and let us keep talking about video and films making.
rafael -
FCPX sucks!!. It is a reworked interface of iMovie. I am not going to be an unpaid beta tester. It is over. I am the thinking of changing the name of the San Diego Final Cut Pro User Group to the San Diego Post Production User Group. UCSD where we hold our meetings, is dropping FCP7 classes since it is not for sale. They replaced FCP7 with AVID because it is not of professional quality. I don’t want to wait until FCP11 is out and it will only run on the iPad4.
It is over I have project to complete and FCPX is junk.
James Daugherty
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[James Daugherty] “I am the thinking of changing the name of the San Diego Final Cut Pro User Group to the San Diego Post Production User Group.”
Or how about San Diego Post Production User Group Formerly Known As San Diego Final Cut Pro User Group
– SDPPUGFKASDFCPUG for simplicity. ; )happy friday
.::DanielDaniel Annefelt
Producer, Creative & Design
MTV Networks North
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