mark clip shortcut in CS4 – where?

[Jon Barrie]

Oh, and for Jon Barrie – this is not whining about what features Premiere should have. This is clearly stated on their website as a new feature.

It’s in the Marker>Set Sequence Marker>;
in and out around selection = /
in and out around clip = shift+/

Thankyou Jiri

😉

Jon Barrie
aJBprods
http://www.jonbarrie.net

[Jiri Fiala]

But that’s hardly selecting the clip, and it’s been in CS3, so…

[Jon Barrie]

Jiri, I’m sorry, but you’ve lost me.

But that’s hardly selecting the clip, and it’s been in CS3, so…

What was in CS3? Selecting a clip is either done my mouse or done by mouse. there is no keyboard shortcut to “select” a clip.

They way you use the mark clip feature in FCP or Avid is to mark the in and out points surrounding the clip the playhead is over. that allows you to either extract or lift whatever lies between the in and out points on the timeline. this is all done with actually selecting the clips. No mouse. PProCS4 does exactly the same things as the other two NLEs. Neither actually select the clip for you.

the feature clearly states exactly what it does.
Mark Clip shortcut – Mark clips more quickly using an assignable keyboard shortcut.

You can alter the shortcut (shift+/) to be anything you want it to be just like any other shortcut in the keyboard shortcut list.

If I have misinterpreted your message, please explain what you want the feature to do?

Jon Barrie
aJBprods
http://www.jonbarrie.net

[Jiri Fiala]

I guess I misinterpreted this feature. I thought it would SELECT (not mark) a clip on targeted track(s), so I can work with its effects for example, or access its context menu, and thus further minimize mouse usage.

Thanks for clearing that up, Jon, and sorry for sounding too ironic 🙂

[Jon Barrie]

That’s cool Jiri. I figured it might have been something like that. I’m really unsure why so many editors are obsessed with using no mouse. I’ve been cutting for nearly 10 years and find the combination of mouse with my right hand and keyboard shortcuts with my left, with the occasional two hands for shortcuts is fine. Some short-cuts are faster to just use the mouse anyway.
What did the poor mouse do to deserve such avoidance?
😉

Jon Barrie
aJBprods
http://www.jonbarrie.net

[Stephen Mark]

Hi Jon. I encountered this thread while also trying to figure out how to mark a clip in Premiere Pro. I teach editing but don’t know this program. I was recently hired to teach a class at a school that uses it, however, and while I consider the teaching of editing and the teaching of software to be different topics, obviously students have to be able to work with the software the school provides. So I’m here learning what I can in order to stay ahead of them, but did want to comment on the question of editors “obsessed” with keystrokes.

I always teach students to learn to use the keyboard as much as possible as it is definitely the best way to work in a professional situation, especially when you have collaborators in a room with you asking for changes and wanting to see quick results. One reason mousing is slow is that in my experience studios set up editing stations with dual monitors and most editors place bins on one and the editing windows on the other. Anyone wanting to drag and drop has to cover a lot of real estate as well as risk the occasional premature release of an icon. Also, long and complex projects usually expand the timeline vertically and I want to dedicate as much screen space for it as possible to maximize the number of tracks I can see. That means reducing the number of graphic toolbars and limiting click commands to those I use only occasionally. Another issue is trimming, a process I encourage students do while watching their cuts loop in order to get the best rhythm. Trimming with a mouse usually stops playback. That may not be a big deal for any one trim, but getting in the habit of trimming without having to stop, trim, watch, trim again etc. is to me a long term time saver and leads to better editing.

What I find frustrating about being committed to Premiere specifically for teaching is that many schools protect their computer labs by installing programs that wipe from the boot drive any student added material each time the computer shuts down. That means customizing and saving settings is problematic. Thus I usually teach students to use the default settings in school and let them know they will have options when they leave to make these programs work faster in the future. The problem with Premiere from that perspective (admittedly a unique one) is that it has the fewest default keyboard shortcuts of any editing program I’ve seen and thus I am unable to practice what I preach. The good news is that schools usually have students working with only one monitor each and for that set up — and the fact it is a school and not a studio and projects are short and simple — the difference between mousing and stroking may be hard to perceive.