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  • Mark Audio Peeks and Apply Normalization Gain–do they exist in X?

    Posted by Chris Harlan on March 9, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    I posted this in the other forum, but perhaps it belongs here.

    Mark Audio Peeks and Apply Normalization Gain–Two relatively minor tools that become briefly essential for me generally on Fridays. They make my life real easy. Do they exist in X?

    Tom Wolsky replied 12 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 11 Replies
  • 11 Replies
  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 9, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    Peaks (or peeks) are marked in red.

    Gain is a filter, just like the normalization gain applies a filter in FCP.

    No, it doesn’t work exactly like FCP7 does.

    Jeremy

  • Chris Harlan

    March 9, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Peaks (or peeks) are marked in red.

    Gain is a filter, just like the normalization gain applies a filter in FCP.

    No, it doesn’t work exactly like FCP7 does.

    Cool.

    Can you apply normalization to the entire timeline?

    And, can you raise the volume level of the entire timeline by, say, 10DB to monitor the peaks?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 9, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “Can you apply normalization to the entire timeline?”

    You can apply a filter clip by clip, or compound and apply, but there’s no “normalize” filter. Just gain. And you can’t really copy/paste single effects quite yet.

    [Chris Harlan] “And, can you raise the volume level of the entire timeline by, say, 10DB to monitor the peaks?”

    There’s no master bus mixer, so you’d have to compound to raise the global level.

    There’s also a “loudness” enhancement available on every clip, you can then click “auto enhance”, but it’s automatic and there’s no control. It’s not all the way awesome.

  • Chris Harlan

    March 9, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “[Chris Harlan] “Can you apply normalization to the entire timeline?”

    You can apply a filter clip by clip, or compound and apply, but there’s no “normalize” filter. Just gain. And you can’t really copy/paste single effects quite yet.

    [Chris Harlan] “And, can you raise the volume level of the entire timeline by, say, 10DB to monitor the peaks?”

    There’s no master bus mixer, so you’d have to compound to raise the global level.

    There’s also a “loudness” enhancement available on every clip, you can then click “auto enhance”, but it’s automatic and there’s no control. It’s not all the way awesome.

    So that clears that up. Unfortunately, its another reason that X isn’t yet useful for me. Universal peak warning is quite useful, but only if you can set it to monitor peak other than zero. More me, its -10DB. And normalization is very useful in making sure that you are meeting strict broadcast standards.

    Oh, well. Just one more thing.

  • Tom Wolsky

    March 9, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    What have you been using? Not legacy FCP.

    All the best,

    Tom

    “Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press
    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Coming in 2012 “Complete Training for FCPX” from Class on Demand

  • Jeremy Garchow

    March 10, 2012 at 12:01 am

    [Chris Harlan] “Oh, well. Just one more thing.”

    I will say the audio meters in X are much more useful and clear.

    They monitor peak levels and have an indicator that turns red when they’ve peak over zero.

  • Andy Neil

    March 10, 2012 at 1:27 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “They monitor peak levels and have an indicator that turns red when they’ve peak over zero.”

    As well as contain a number letting you know just how many db you need to lower the levels to avoid peaking.

    Andy

    https://www.timesavertutorials.com

  • Chris Harlan

    March 10, 2012 at 2:48 am

    [Tom Wolsky] “What have you been using? Not legacy FCP.

    All the best,

    Tom”

    Why on earth would you say that? Yes, FCP 7. Same process for several years now. Never had anything kicked back, and I face some pretty stringent broadcast requirements.

  • Tom Wolsky

    March 10, 2012 at 3:22 am

    “Universal peak warning is quite useful, but only if you can set it to monitor peak other than zero. More me, its -10DB.”

    Because you wrote that, and that’s not a feature available in any version of FCP, so I thought you were using something else.

    All the best,

    Tom

    “Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press
    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Coming in 2012 “Complete Training for FCPX” from Class on Demand

  • Chris Harlan

    March 10, 2012 at 3:41 am

    [Tom Wolsky] “”Universal peak warning is quite useful, but only if you can set it to monitor peak other than zero. More me, its -10DB.”

    Because you wrote that, and that’s not a feature available in any version of FCP, so I thought you were using something else.

    All the best,

    Tom”

    Sure you can, Tom. You’re just not thinking it through. If your goal is to monitor for a Peak of -10DB, you temporarily raise the volume of your sequence from 0db to 10db, you then have a de facto monitor for a -10db. You can mark Peaks at that point, and the small vu meter will also let you know–as you are doing repairs–where your problems are. You can also vary the volume between say 9.75 db and 10.25 db to get a good sensed of the degree to which you are in or out. Then, when you are done, you simply drop the volume of the sequence back to 0. I’ve been using that trick for years, and it is far more sensitive than you might think. Because I do promos and compressed, maximized volume is a big part of that, I focus a lot on ridding and balancing the peak. I’m guessing that is not as much of a concern for you, which is why you’ve never stumbled on this process.

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