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  • Mark a Clip without marking transitions?

    Posted by Josh Weiss on March 2, 2006 at 4:48 pm

    I was wondering if there is a way to mark a clip by hitting x without having it mark the transitions. If they are centered on the edit, it will mark part of the adjacent clips as well so if I do an overwrite edit it will change my edit points. Is there a way to have it both mark the clips without marking the transition and overwrite the clip leaving the transition that was there?

    Josh Weiss replied 20 years, 2 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Arnie Schlissel

    March 2, 2006 at 8:49 pm

    FCP is marking the actual in & out of the clip including the pre & post roll needed for your transition. Since FCP will not allow you to overwrite (or insert) into the middle of a transition, there wouldn’t be much point in marking it any other way. Have you considered using a “replace” edit, instead of an overwrite? That way, you don’t even have to mark the clip!

  • Josh Weiss

    March 2, 2006 at 10:18 pm

    Arnie, I do understand that its marking the pre and post roll. However, in real world use this can be impractical and there are many uses to have a setting that does not link the transition when marking. For instance, you render a scene out of after effects or other software that will replace where a current scene now lives in the edit. It will take the same time and have the same timing so all you really need to do is replace this. However, the way that final cut works, you must first delete the transitions before marking a clip. In systems like a Smoke, if you don’t have link transitions set, you can just replace the clip keeping the transitions in place. This is obviously quite handy. I don’t really see how using your suggestion of a replace over an overwrite will help in this situation. While I do often use the replace edit, that is not the function that I am speaking of in this questions and I don’t see how it will help me here. If anyone has any insight into my original post that would be great. Thanks everyone.

  • Arnie Schlissel

    March 2, 2006 at 10:28 pm

    [jwedit] ” For instance, you render a scene out of after effects or other software that will replace where a current scene now lives in the edit. It will take the same time and have the same timing so all you really need to do is replace this.”

    And if you didn’t include the pre & post roll the 1st time, you need to export the clip back to AE & re-do it.

    [jwedit] “In systems like a Smoke, if you don’t have link transitions set, you can just replace the clip keeping the transitions in place.”

    Which is exactly what FCP’s replace edit does. It will leave transitions in place, simply swapping in the new clip for the old.

    Arnie
    https://www.arniepix.com

  • Josh Weiss

    March 2, 2006 at 10:58 pm

    Arnie, I’m not quite sure what your first comment means. My statement had nothing to do with not having pre and post roll in the AE render. My statement had to do with doing an overwrite edit and not overwriting over the transition, but in fact putting a new clip in the edit while keeping the same transitions in place.

    As for the replace edit, you can do a replace edit and not disturb the transitions. However, one it is not using ins and outs which some people do like to use sometimes; two, this works if you have a transition on one end of the clip. It does not work if you have a transition and the head and tail of the clip. You get the error saying invalid content for edit. Even if the new source footage is twice the length of the clip you are trying to replace.

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