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Major FCP error, whole computer crashes!
Christopher Targia replied 15 years, 4 months ago 7 Members · 30 Replies
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Christopher Targia
December 8, 2010 at 3:25 pmAlso, can I boot off an eSata or Firewire drive? If I can, is that even a good idea?
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Jeremy Garchow
December 9, 2010 at 6:53 pm[Christopher Targia] “Also, can I boot off an eSata or Firewire drive?”
Firewire, yes, but it’s not recommended for editing due to the lag. You can do it to make or restore clones.
Jeremy
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Jeremy Garchow
December 9, 2010 at 6:53 pm[Christopher Targia] “1 drive as a boot, and the other three on raid 5 for main scratch disk?”
Yes, that’s what I would do if you want to use the raid card.
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Christopher Targia
December 9, 2010 at 8:56 pmThank you for your response.
However I did some of my own research on the subject yesterday and came across this.
https://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-BootDriveDogma.html
I read over this and followed this advise
Using Firewire 800 as a boot drive
My Mac Pro boots from an external Firewire 800 drive in order to free up all four internal drive bays for the important stuff — a capacious and ultra-fast data volume.A 10,000 rpm SATA boot drive would be trivially faster (see discussion above). It’s just not relevant.
I dedicate the Firewire 800 drive to system and applications. Furthermore, I partition it into a 64GB system partition, guaranteeing that the fast portion of the drive is used, minimizing seek time and maximizing data transfer speed. More
When all four internal Mac Pro drive bays are not needed, using one of the drive bays for a boot drive is convenient and preferable to an external Firewire 800 drive, but use a separate drive for your data. The same idea can be extended to use another drive (or two) for a Photoshop scratch volume: see Optimizing Photoshop Performance.
So I currently have my OS booting off my FW800 External. Is this a bad idea in practice? Should I go ahead with you suggested and use one of my internal drives? Should I hook this drive up to my eSata port?
I also found some interesting stuff about partitioning.
https://macperformanceguide.com/Storage-Partitioning.html
In theory it makes perfect sense, the outside of the disk will cover more disk space at the same RPM. However in my tests I have been doing my own tests and have been finding the read/write times are almost identical; although I am only doing it with empty drives so I am sure when these drives of gigs of data on them, that will change. Does anyone have experience with partitioning like this?
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Jeremy Garchow
December 9, 2010 at 9:01 pmI’m sorry, Christopher, you are way way way way way way over thinking the importance of your boot drive.
The speed should be on your scratch drive, your boot drive does not need to be partitioned, segmented, 10K, whatever. It needs to be a normal single sata drive, 7200RPM is fine.
If you want to keep your RAID card as is, you can stuff another SATA drive in the extra DVD drive of your MacPro with a third party rail solution.
Jeremy
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Christopher Targia
December 9, 2010 at 9:36 pmFor some reason when I read this
Firewire, yes, but it’s not recommended for editing due to the lag. You can do it to make or restore clones.
I misread and thought you said FW800 was not recommend for BOOT, my fault. I will keep it running like this thanks!
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Jeremy Garchow
December 9, 2010 at 9:51 pmI would NOT use Fw800 as a boot drive for editing. That’s what I am saying. Yes, you CAN boot from fw800, but I would not run my editing system this way.
Booting from a fw800 drive is useful for when you have to make or restore clones.
Here:
https://blog.macsales.com/684-installing-a-5th-hard-drive-into-a-new-mac-pro-nehalem
Put a new SATA drive in the extra MacPro DVD slot, then clone your current system to it. Then restripe your raid5.
Jeremy
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Christopher Targia
December 10, 2010 at 3:33 pmThank you for the advice, I will definitely do that, or atleast just have 1 internal as my boot and 3 for the Raid, however, as I downloaded and went to run carbon copy cloner, it crashed, and now it doesn’t force quit!! this is the same problem I was happening before I reinstalled the OS, wth! what could be causing this!
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MacPro Octo Core Intel Xenon 2.8Ghz 10GB DDR2 Ram
FCP 7.0.3
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Jeremy Garchow
December 10, 2010 at 4:44 pm[Christopher Targia] “this is the same problem I was happening before I reinstalled the OS, wth! what could be causing this!”
My hunch (a and it’s just a hunch) is having your OS on Raid. Sounds like it’s not agreeing very well.
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Christopher Targia
December 13, 2010 at 3:31 pmMy os is no longer on a raid, I have it on a single SATA HDD
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MacPro Octo Core Intel Xenon 2.8Ghz 10GB DDR2 Ram
FCP 7.0.3
-I highly recommend el Gato Turbo264HD-
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