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Maintaining Volume Envelope when Replacing Contents
Posted by Kelly Griffin on April 10, 2019 at 10:46 pmI have a timeline with many different sources of audio. There’s a volume envelope for it that makes adjustments over everything.
I rendered the timeline as a single new audio file, then sent it out to have a hiss removed.
I now want to replace the many original files with the single new file, but keep the volume envelope I made when there were many files instead of just one.
How do I do that (or, can I do that)?
–KG
Kelly Griffin replied 7 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 7 Replies -
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George Dean
April 10, 2019 at 11:39 pmHi Kelly,
Maybe yes and maybe no!
Are all the audio clips on the same track? When you rendered out the single new audio file and left the envelope on the track, that rendered file you sent out to have the hiss removed will also reflect any adjustments you made with the audio envelope and these are now baked in.
If you load your project and delete all the audio clips from the track with the envelope, the envelope will stay on that track and not change. Now you can load the single audio render (that you received back from the hiss doctor) on that track, aligning it at the same start point, and everything should be as before you rendered and sent it out (of course now without the hiss!). Off course the results of any adjustments in the audio envelope will depend on the rendered envelope now being baked in.
If you have multiple audio clips in multiple tracks with multiple audio envelopes, now you have a completely different monster to slay!!
Best Regards……George
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Kelly Griffin
April 11, 2019 at 12:17 amGeorge: I deleted the volume envelope first, then rendered all the files (they’re all on the same track) into the one file. Then closed Vegas without saving, so the envelope would come back next time I opened the timeline.
Now, when I delete the original files the volume envelope goes flat to 0db.
I should have mentioned I’m on SVP10. Is that why it’s not working? Or, is there another workaround?
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George Dean
April 11, 2019 at 12:41 amHi Kelly,
The oldest version I have is Sony VP13, which acts like your version 10, when the audio files is deleted the envelope goes flat. I was using Magix VP16 for my test.
OK, so here is another work around. Open your project with the original audio files and volume envelope. Write down which audio is first in the track. Now close your project. Rename all the audio files or move them from the folder so Vegas will not find them when it loads the project. Now load your project and when Vegas prompts select to find a replacement for the audio file that was listed first on the track. Leave the rest off-line. This works in VP13, hope it works for version 10.
Best Regards……George
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Francois Pénzes
April 11, 2019 at 12:56 amHi Kelly
As a foot note, if you have noises that need to be removed, it is best to have it done before anything else. Just as you would denoise your video file before colour correction. You will get a much better result with less loss of what you want to keep. The denoising algorithm work better when there are no audio level variations. Always try to start with the cleanest slate.
Cheers !
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Kelly Griffin
April 11, 2019 at 4:46 pmGeorge: BRILLIANT. That should work beautifully! Thanks for the workaround.
Francois: Yes, I removed the volume envelope before rendering the raw audio tracks into one new track. Had the hiss removed on that result. Now I’m putting that back in the timeline where the multiple files once were, with the volume envelope.
Thanks to you both for your reply!
–KG
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Dimitrios Papadimitriou
April 11, 2019 at 9:21 pmIf you switch off lock events to envelopes do they still go flat when you delete?
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