Mackie 1402 and Kona3

[Szumlins]

If you wanted to use an outboard mixer with more than 2 channels on a Kona 3, you could use an AJA ADA4 mini converter for 4 channels of XLR analog audio or 2x ADA4’s and use all 8 of your AES outputs on the Kona 3.

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-Mike

[Ron Thompson]

You could possibly use it as a monitor too…Plug the analog mix from the Kona into the Mackie as well as other devices like decks, etc.
Other than that, to use it as a router for example, you will need a D/A converter as advised.

The beauty with the 1402 is you can configure it to work anyway you want.

[Athenross]

Thank you for both SO much! So, I can get at least 4 channels of audio with the converter? Fantastic. Would this allow me to also use the mixer as a control surface, or would I need a separate product that combines the two?

Thanks again!
~Athen

[Ron Thompson]

I have a Mackie Control Surface. This is different from a mixer in that you’re dealing with data only! The MCU uses MIDI.
I think Tascam makes a mixer/control surface combo, but I have no experience or no anyone who’s worked with it. You can probably do a search in the FCP forum.

I run both a Mackie MCU and a 1402.

[Athenross]

Aha. Okay, thanks Ronnyron! It appears that the Tascam FW-1082 would probably be a better way to go.

Thanks again!
~David

[Michael Bloodgood]

Get the 1884. It has more industry standard plugin options plus 5.1 monitoring and word clock. I got mine for $720 from a music store that sells used equipment on ebay. Tascam gear is like a Mac, refurbs are an excellent value.

[Ron Thompson]

Yeah…it should work. I’m all about brand loyalty…so the mackie was a no-brainer since I’ve been working with it for years both in my studio and in others. I’m sure the Tascam is fine…just do some research on the FCP forums…I seem to remember some minor glitches with FCP (which I’m sure are probably fixed by now with the “dot” updates).

Ron

PS: if you go to the Mackie website, it looks like they are about to put out a new line of Mackie control surfaces. (new mixers too)

[Bob Zelin]

Athen –
The AJA Kona 3 does not have analog audio inputs. If you are using Digital VTR’s, like Digi Beta, pro DV decks like the DSR-1500, or various HD VTR’s, this is the correct product for you. The Mackie 1402 is a teriffic inexpensive audio mixer, and is used for AUDIO MONITORING in this application. If you need to input analog sources into your Kona 3, a different digital audio mixer will solve nothing for you. You still can’t get analog video into the Kona 3. For example, if you need Beta and VHS into your Kona 3, it aint’gonna work without converters. If you buy a converter, like the AJA HD10AVA, or buy an AJA I/O, these have analog inputs, and can convert the analog signal to a digital signal with embedded audio. These products can also be monitored using your existing Mackie 1402. I see no reason why you should buy a different audio mixer for this application – the Mackie 1402 is a teriffic product, and is widely used by many editors. No audio mixer is going to let you get analog video into your Kona 3, and most AJA converters will do the A/D conversion for your audio AS WELL as your video – IF that is what you require.

Bob Zelin

[Dan Riley]

Bob,
What are the delay issues, if any, dealing with monitoring KONA 3 digital audio
through a converter into the 1402? Or do people generally just use the RCA
outputs into the 1402 for monitoring?

And going from a BetaSP deck, through a converter to SDI video and audio into the KONA 3? Is there a known number of frames the timecode will be off between the tape and the resulting SDI converted signal?

Dan

[Athenross]

Hi Bob,

It appears that the 1402 will only work with the Kona3 via the ADA4 converter. It also will only work as a mixer, and not as surface control. It might be better for me to go with a sort of two-in-one option like a Tascam model.

Am I right in these thoughts, or did I completely misunderstand your post?
Thanks!
~Athen