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  • MacBook Pro with a Retina display … is that a young persons thing?

    Posted by Andy Mees on June 13, 2012 at 8:47 am

    Alright, I’m going to have to throw myself on the mercy of the COW here and just ask why it is that I should be excited by ultra high resolution 15″ displays? I’m serious. As the disgruntled owner of reading glasses which I apparently now need to counter my (shock horror) aging eyes, I’m struggling to imagine how displaying pixel perfect 1080p video inside of a small window within my NLE is going to make my 15″ world a better place? And where does it end? Will I eventually have pixel perfect 1080p thumbnails? And would that be a good thing too? Clearly I’m just not getting it yet, but I’m ready to be educated … and yes, I realise I should probably be coming the Ars website and doing my own dirty work, but am hoping I can get away with asking here instead 🙂

    Cheers
    Andy

    Bill Davis replied 13 years, 10 months ago 15 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Michael Gissing

    June 13, 2012 at 10:31 am

    Small screens might appeal to inexperienced editors. Regardless of resolution small screens and scratch pad controls would make fine adjustments of things like color correctors difficult. There would also be lots more zooming in and out.

    I hate one screen so just one and only 15 inch sounds like torture. After a six week edit on a small screen, I bet that there will be young editors with glasses long before you needed them Andy.

  • Timothy Auld

    June 13, 2012 at 11:49 am

    I often need to work with transcripts open as well as the NLE. That’s tough to do on one screen, let alone a small screen – no matter what the resolution. I am not against better resolution on a mac book per se but to work on a 15″ screen all the time? Ouch.

    Tim

  • Daniel Frome

    June 13, 2012 at 11:55 am

    I most certainly agree it won’t be all that useful. I am buying one, but not for the display. However, I am also getting laser eye surgery in coming weeks, so perhaps it’s a necessary combination! 😉

  • Craig Shields

    June 13, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    I have forty some year old eyes and I work on a 15″ everyday. When I’m not in the field I hook it up to the 27″ on my desk. Having said all that, I just got tri-focal contacts sooo…

  • Rafael Amador

    June 13, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    I had no need of glasses when I started editing on my first MBP 17 four years ago, now I can’t even read this forum without zooming in on a DELL 24″, so when the people dreams about editing on an iPad y just can think “poor boys’.
    The Retina display will force people to buy a second monitor, or perhaps Apple is developing the iGlasses to be able to work just with the laptop. Who knows. Apple know what you need better than your self.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Mark Beazley

    June 13, 2012 at 2:34 pm

    Pretty much think it is a joke that Apple is bragging about streaming uncompressed video footage for editing off the internal storage. 768GB isn’t even close to having enough storage for any sort of editing using uncompressed footage.

    -mark

  • Gary Huff

    June 13, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    [Michael Gissing] “After a six week edit on a small screen, I bet that there will be young editors with glasses long before you needed them Andy.”

    That’s an old wives’ tale.

  • Rick Lang

    June 13, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    Andy Mees:
    “I’m struggling to imagine how displaying pixel perfect 1080p video inside of a small window within my NLE is going to make my 15″ world a better place?”

    Soon someone will be using the MacBook Pro Retina with FCPX 10.0.5 and they’ll be able to give you informed feedback. Until then, it seems to make sense as you are editing that it must be a good thing to see the entire HD video in the preview window, particularly when looking at effects and keying. It may not make the world a better place, but it may be easier on our tired eyes seeing ‘retina’ images rather than what we are used to. So I think for image display it will be good even more professional to have a pixel perfect rendition. It remains to be seen how easy it will be to edit on a 15″ screen though where the physical real estate is smaller than than 17″ most would use previously. At home or in the office, you may want to edit on your larger desktop screen (you know the much larger screen with less pixels), but when traveling, may be more challenging.

    Rick Lang

    iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB

  • Gary Adcock

    June 14, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    Andy,

    I have seen a number of pixel based issues with many of the newer cameras that are not visable if the content is not viewed at 100%. This was an issue with the original RED One cameras, offering so much rez when only allowing a low quality 720p output many issues were not seen

    gary adcock
    Studio37

    Post and Production Workflow Consultant
    Production and Post Stereographer
    Chicago, IL

    https://blogs.creativecow.net/24640

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  • Tim Wilson

    June 14, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    [gary adcock] “his was an issue with the original RED One cameras, offering so much rez when only allowing a low quality 720p output many issues were not seen”

    Agree that pixel-for-pixel footage is critical for monitoring, but I also agree with concerns about UI remapping at that scale. Yeah, it’ll be crisp, but it’ll be TINY, right? Gonna be interesting to see this thing in the wild…

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