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MAC Pro release Date
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[Steve Connor] “Strange that, I feel sorry for you Not being able to use FCPX :)”
Worry not, gentle Steve. I have a Mac Book Pro and I could run it on that if I had a desire or need to.
Unlike many of the defenders of the faith here, who think I should want or need to run FCPX if only my eyes would open to it’s glory, alas, my eyes just glazed over. It’s just not my taste. May they be happy in their bliss, but mine is found elsewhere so I don’t come here much and when I do I tend to skip over the proselytechniks. I have friends who use it and are happy with it but their needs are much less demanding than mine and they don’t feel any need to tell me that I’m missing something or that I could be doing what I’m doing on lower powered Apple hardware.
David
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[Scott Witthaus] “Exactly Steve. Why buy a BMW when a Fiesta “LX” will get you to the same place and nearly the same time?
It’s not about a feature list.”
Well, to use the impoverished car analogy, it’s certainly not about a Fiesta vs a BMW going to visit your grandmother. It’s about going cross country – off road – and whether your car can get you there at all. Appropriate tools for appropriate work.
David
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[Steve Connor] “As we are actually on an FCPX forum this is an important point.”
The thread is about the not-to-be-released-until-2019 Mac Pro. So pointing out what’s available today as a more powerful machine than the iMac Pro is appropriate, no?
Apple could put out an expandable machine tomorrow based on my specs for less money( well, it’s Apple so it would never be less money). The point is that they’ve decided in their preternatural wisdom, that the majority of Mac power users will wait another year or more. Not so astonishingly, they’re probably right.
David
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[David Cherniack] “The thread is about the not-to-be-released-until-2019 Mac Pro. So pointing out what’s available today as a more powerful machine than the iMac Pro is appropriate, no? “
Not really, it won’t run FCPX so it’s irrelevant ☺
Seriously though, very glad you’re happy with your system, if it suits your needs then that’s fantastic.
The slightly snarky comments about Mac users are also irrelevant as well really. The simple fact is that a PC DOESN’T suit my and many other Mac users needs for PROFESSIONAL reasons not because we all somehow belong to the “cult of Mac”
[David Cherniack] “The point is that they’ve decided in their preternatural wisdom, that the majority of Mac power users will wait another year or more. Not so astonishingly, they’re probably right.
“\”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka
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[Steve Connor] “The slightly snarky comments about Mac users are also irrelevant as well really. The simple fact is that a PC DOESN’T suit my and many other Mac users needs for PROFESSIONAL reasons not because we all somehow belong to the “cult of Mac””
Of course not, and my comments were not directed at ALL FCPX users…just some of them..
Some of my best friends are FCPX users 🙂
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sometimes I get SO ANGRY reading comments from Steve Connor and Bill Davis (even though they are nice guys).
It seems that NO MATTER WHAT Apple does – it’s ok – it’s all Apple, just go along with it. When you come from “our background” (you know, Mac Pro’s that you can install anything you want, and are still running to this day in 2018) – we get upset when Apple says “no more buddy – give us more money”.Does Apple own AMD ? No. Didn’t they used to work with Nvidia wonderfully ? YES. Didn’t most of this list own
Quadro 4000 and GTX-680 cards ? YES. But then some BUSINESS PERSON at Apple said NO MORE. Why don’t you get angry about this.Apple has had a recent announcement that they will use their own chips in 2020 instead of Intel (based on Cow article and Bloomberg). You DO know, that unless Apple is planning on buying Intel, there will be no more Thunderbolt on those machines. What about your Thunderbolt investment – just throw that out ? Just say “ok, thanks Apple, here is my money all over again”. Why do YOU keep saying “it’s ok” every time Apple does something like this. It’s not the engineers that are punishing people – Apple Engineering is great. It’s the Apple business model that makes people angry – but there are “those users” that just keep saying “oh – stop complaining – it’s ok, Apple is just great”. So Apple is becoming just like those “nursing home” facilities that drain every penny out of grandma’s life savings every year – “but they take care of her so well – so what if they charge $80,000 a year”.
I just don’t know why you don’t get upset with all of this.
Bob Zelin
Bob Zelin
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I will probably get flamed (is that even a thing these days) for this post.
I work on both Mac OS and Windows 7/10.
Sorry but I find the Windows OS to be buggy with most of the apps I use.
Sure I’ve experienced super raw power in Maya, Resolve. RCX and Adobe products (HPZ840/240) but I also experience way too many oddities not worth getting into here.
For me, the Mac OS is stable and I can at least pinpoint the minor issues.
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[Bob Zelin] “sometimes I get SO ANGRY reading comments from Steve Connor and Bill Davis”
Sorry that you get angry about this (and I’m not sure I’m happy about being lumped in with Bill on this) but let me try and explain further.
I mostly use FCPX and Pro Apps, the editing experience I have had with FCPX over the last 3 or 4 years has been more stable, fast and enjoyable than any edit system I have used since the first Avids arrived here in the UK a million years ago.
I’ve used most NLEs over the years on both Macs and PCs so I do have a lot of experience with other systems.
I edit with lots of different formats from .mp4 to 4K XAVC and at no point in the edit day do I notice any issues with speed and responsiveness at all, so basically I’m a happy Editor most of the time, I don’t find myself wishing for a fast liquid cooled PC with twin Nvidia Titans etc etc because I’m happy with the speed of my system, I can add CC effects and all sorts of titles, renders don’t take too long, even when I’m outputting a 90 minute show, it doesn’t take much more than an hour, so I don’t have a desperate need for extra speed in my workflow.
…and I’m on a 2013 MacBook Pro!
I feel the integration between the OS and the Apps give a speed and reliability advantage that offsets a lot of the need for extra grunt from a bigger box.
OK so if I was working with RED files or RAW I’m sure it would be different story, but then I would just drop the cash on a nicely specced iMac Pro and, as other people have found, this would be powerful enough for that work as well.
To be honest as far as I’m concerned I don’t care if Apple release a new Mac Pro or not and I have to drop £6000 or £7000 on a new iMac Pro system every 3 years that’s no big deal either as I bill for any hardware I have and it’s tax deductible as well, it’s peanuts compared to what I used to spend and it’s well worth it for the stability and editing experience I get with Apple software.
Having said all that if FCPX was discontinued or I was primarily an Adobe user or I had a lot of 3D work I would switch to PC immediately.
My loyalty to Apple is based on my editing experience, not because I’m a fanboy – does that make sense?
\”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka
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[Eric Santiago] “IMHO of course.”
As is everything posted on here 🙂
\”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka
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I use 7 on my Office machine and 10 Pro on the Fastwalker (specs above). I find 10 Pro to be totally stable as long as I keep bios, drivers, apps, and OS upgrades up to date. Sometimes small things break with a major update but it’s followed by an update with the driver or app that fixes it. This does mean paying attention and keeping everything up to date. Most of the problems people experience with the stability any NLE are caused by not keeping things, especially hardware, drivers current.
David
https://AllinOneFilms.com
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