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  • Bill Davis

    January 22, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    [John Rofrano] “Apple is in some kind of “thin is better” bubble that they just can’t get out of. (anyone have a pin that can burst it and free them?) lol”

    Not surprisingly, I see this very differently.

    The people who think Apples game is “thin” I think are missing the point.

    The goal isn’t actually “thin” – it’s “refined.” If you refine your designs so it requires less space to pack in all the performance the vast majority of your customers need, what’s the use of making it thicker just to accommodate stuff like old form-factor ports that need more space?

    Would having a few more millimeters of empty space in the chassis cavity to allow bigger connectors make real sense if to get that you had to make the unit thicker than it actually needed to be? Seems kinda silly to me.

    For decades new clients have asked me “ideally, how long should my video be?” I always answer ” exactly as long we need to make it to effectively communicate the message we need to send, and not a second longer.”

    What’s the problem with applying the same standard to laptops?

    Finally, I think there are other GREAT company wide benefits to the design philosophy that allows for thin laptops. That same culture of “refinement” in manufacturing prowess becomes even more useful when you start working beyond laptops and tablets and are packing “capability density” into phones, watches, and maybe someday sophisticated medical devices.

    Again, you’re free to see this as a quest for “thin” but it’s equally valid to see it as a quest for refinement – that has the SIDE EFFECT of allowing thinness. Building expertise in packing more and more capability in less and less physical space. That seems kinda fundamentally smart to me.

    FWIW.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Steve Connor

    January 22, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Building expertise in packing more and more capability in less and less physical space. That seems kinda fundamentally smart to me.”

    But in some ways there’s LESS capability as you have to add external devices to replace the connectivity that’s been lost.

  • Herb Sevush

    January 22, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    [Steve Connor] “But in some ways there’s LESS capability as you have to add external devices to replace the connectivity that’s been lost.”

    Their target user (14 year old) isn’t going to add anything external, if some old fuddy-dudies need something then they can dongle themselves into oblivion. A win-win in Cupertino.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin\’ attached to nothin\’
    \”Deciding the spine is the process of editing\” F. Bieberkopf

  • Bill Davis

    January 23, 2017 at 3:11 am

    [Steve Connor] “But in some ways there’s LESS capability as you have to add external devices to replace the connectivity that’s been lost.”

    If there’s an adapter – you do not lose any “capability” at all. Only temporary “convenience” which disappears as you refresh your gear as manufacturers migrate to the new standard.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Andy Patterson

    January 23, 2017 at 4:39 am

    [Bill Davis] “Is that not mocking Adobe’s CC? I am not a fan of the CC myself so I don’t mind the comment. ”

    It is not because everyone here knows I do my best NEVER to negatively comment on software I don’t actually have direct experience with. the business model, however IS fair game. I dislike that and everyone here knows it. Perhaps you’re just too new in these parts to understand the context?”

    I don’t care if you do your best dude. You do at times mock other companies and talk negatively about other software programs so get over yourself dude! My being new doesn’t change the fact that you are a perpetual cheer leader for the Apple corporation shaking your pom poms when ever possible. I cut down Adobe and MS more than I do any other company but if I want to mention the short comings of the Apple Corporation I will do so. I don’t need your permission. Learn to deal with it! And whether you want to admit it or not I do know about the specifics of the software and products I criticize.

    [Bill Davis] “As to your second point, please explain what exactly does one of Scott’s posts linking one of my friend Olivers articals have to do with you?”

    Are you trying to dictate what I can and cannot say and what threads I can post to? What gives you the right? You don’t see me treating you that way nor do I see you treating other people that way. Why am I the lucky one Bill? I think you are upset because you know my criticisms about Apple are correct. If my posts upset you Bill learn to deal with reality. You are not my mom or legal guardian. Having said that I probably know a lot more about computers than you ever will and I can add an interesting perspective to these forum. I provided the link below not you. Not to mention my comments were dead on! All you want to do is shake your pom poms for Apple. How is that productive?

    https://www.sonnettech.com/product/xmacproserver/index.html

    [Bill Davis] “And finally.
    Cool, your position is that the other programs are advanced in ways I just don’t understand.
    Convince me. Give me your top three capabilities that another software package can do that X can’t?”

    This is a strawman argument because I never stated the other programs can do things FCPX cannot do. I stated you will do something in FCPX and think it is amazing and revolutionary when in fact other programs can do the same thing. Having said that didn’t someone just recently inform you that we can buy stock photos within Premiere Pro? Can FCPX do that?

    [Bill Davis] “I’d cite Range based tagging, the magnetic timeline, and Roles as innovations singular to X – so help me understand about the equivelents or similar unique features in the other NLEs.”

    Once again you are using a strawman to try and hide the fact that you are a cheerleader for the Apple corporation. I never stated FCPX does not have features not found in other programs. If I had made the statements you claim I did you would have quoted me but you cannot quote me because I never made those statements. I am also not afraid to call you out on it. Having said that what you do is take quotes from two different post and try to make it seems as though they are from the same post when in fact you are taking the quotes out of context and you know it.

    Care to continue going tit for tat Bill?

    I have to say I have never came across anyone like you before in a discussion forum. In another thread you had asked me about my credentials. I gave them to you. Did you read them? I think you did and you were upset to learn I worked with high-end broadcast equipment so you didn’t bother responding. I know you asked that question in hopes that my experience consisted of wedding videos (I am not knocking wedding videographers but I have never done it myself). Having said that do you ask everyone their credentials? As I sated in my other response to you if I loved honored and worshiped Apple you would not have asked for my credentials. I don’t care about you credentials or anyone else’s. Why would I? People either have an interesting perspective on the topics in this thread or they don’t regardless if they ever edit video for a living. I find your perspectives to be bat shit crazy at best regardless of where you work. You seem to go ballistic and bat shit crazy anytime anyone tries to make a suggestion about FCPX or Apple in general. Your response is always childish. You more often than not attack a strawman than the actual topic or issue and think you are being super clever. No one sees you as clever when you start shaking your pom poms for Apple. I think the word silly might apply.

    Miss quoting people and making false accusations will not make FCPX better. I may be new to these forums Bill but I feel confident that people can easily see you love to shake your pom poms : )

  • Bill Davis

    January 23, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    [andy patterson] “You do at times mock other companies and talk negatively about other software programs so get over yourself dude!”

    An hour ago I was helping a bit on learning theory – cuz I’m trying to do some work in that area – and I stumbled across this quote:

    “…the quality of adaptation is thoroughly dependent on the quality of the stress.” – Mark Rippertoe

    Thats QUITE insightful, IMO.

    I can see I am a bit stressed these days.

    As I suspect, you are too.

    So I’ll leave things there.

    To the group in general, I apologize for my tone lately.

    Back to work.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

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