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Mac alternative to MS Outlook
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“We are using Exchange 2003”
I dont mean any offense by this but that’s 8 years old and for software that is quite old. You would benefit in so many ways by upgrading.
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Also, if it’s going on and off as you describe, that doesn’t sound like a problem with Mail. Software either works or doesn’t, its not programmer play with your head intermittently. So I’d be surprised if there’s not more afoot; what that sounds more like to me is that (ironically) Mail is just picking up on an issue more than entourage or something. Oh well, get a later version and all will be sorted.
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Tom Morter-Laing
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[Zane Barker] “I dont mean any offense by this but that’s 8 years old and for software that is quite old. You would benefit in so many ways by upgrading.”
Normally, I would agree totally with you, but my IT guy doesn’t see it that way. His philosophy is, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Well, there’s only three Macs on our network and 45 PCs. PCs win this argument.
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Yeah totally understand, I mean my old Mac Plus is still working so I use that for all my editing, and it only takes a few months to do anything… I mean why upgrade when it’s still working how it used to huh?
Same with this new fangled Blue Ray stuff, I mean I’m still on Beta Max and it’s FINE… Don’t understand the fuss personally!
Thanks ladies and gents I’m here all week…
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Tom Morter-Laing
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Yeah, you need Exchange 2008 for everything to work “magically”. I’m stuck in the same spot at work. The exchange servers have been scheduled for upgrades for a number of years, but I guess a couple of thousand mail boxes and various corp acquisitions and divestitures keeps it on the back burner.
On the alternatives to Outlook, I’ve had great success using IMAP against exchange (assuming you can get that turned on) and have found it often to be faster than Outlook over MAPI. For the address book, it’s just simple LDAP and I’ve had luck with both Thunderbird and Evolution when I was on a Linux workstation (before I was able to get a Mac at work). Calendaring is the one real challenge and forces me to Outlook via RDP or just using Entourage (currently).
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Exactly, Chris. This my point. Not all businesses live in fantasy world of all up to date software. Some of us live in the real world where our desktop systems are still running Windows XP and Server 2003. Alot of the corporate world is afraid of Windows 7 and Server 2008. Apple should have some understanding of this.
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[Wayne Carey] “Alot of the corporate world is afraid of Windows 7 and Server 2008. Apple should have some understanding of this.”
Why is it Apples fault. It might be a issue with of the OLD exchange 2003, have you thought of that.
I have even heard that there are some issues with the OLD exchange 2003 and the iOS devices.
Apple is a PROGRESSIVE company that moves forward. Apple does not even still support the OS that they released 8 years ago so why should Apple be required to support the software from another company that OLD.
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We migrated our email system to Google Apps last week. The free version gives you up to 50 users and was set up in a night. It operates via exchange, pop, or imap. So far it’s been flawless, and the web access is essentially gmail, but with your own domain name.
The best part is we don’t have to have an engineer sit around maintaining a server.
It’s perfect with apple mail, outlook, and iOS devices.
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[Wayne Carey] “Exactly, Chris. This my point. Not all businesses live in fantasy world of all up to date software. Some of us live in the real world where our desktop systems are still running Windows XP and Server 2003. Alot of the corporate world is afraid of Windows 7 and Server 2008. Apple should have some understanding of this.”
I was a sysadmin at Ford for a number of years. I was also at SGI working in engineering and acting as part of the release team (approving changes etc)
When you’ve got hundreds of people working on something, you can only release in controlled periods. Otherwise, it gets crazy as different changes step on each other. Everyone has a schedule for when they’ll have their new feature or bug fix finished and they have to have some sort of framework to schedule against.
A lot of sysadmins see danger in change so they stay with what they have as long as they can. I think that makes sense for one release iteration, but more than one is asking for trouble.
For example, I can see people sitting at 10.5.8. If they are production and in the middle of something, that’s OK. However if they are at 10.4.11, that’s asking for trouble. Any systems running an OS that old should be used as appliances only, in situations that are known to be safe and working. They should not be redeployed because they will likely be broken.
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Thank you, Steve. That is my point exactly. There would have been nothing wrong with a couple of older settings for the corporate environment. A little fore thought needs to be applied when creating programs that can be used in enterprise situations.
Of course, you can see Apple’s enterprise development by the recent decision to get rid of the XServe rack mount boxes. That was real smart. (insert sarcasm here)
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