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  • LTO 7 and M1 Max compatibility ?

    Posted by Trevor De kock on March 30, 2023 at 9:54 am

    We would appreciate any assistance with connecting the newly acquired LT0 7 with our M1 Max.

    The LTO hardware is installed and registering on the Mac, we just don’t have a way to mount the tapes without the applicable software. We installed HPE L&TT but it doesn’t show up in the folder that it should be in and I’m unable to launch it via the terminal commands. We do need to update the firmware on the LTO 7, but at present unable to access it in order to do this.

    Is there anyway around this with as regards the LTO management software or do we have to go the Yoyotta route – https://yoyotta.com/yoyotta/pricing.html

    Scott Brown replied 4 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Neil Sadwelkar

    April 1, 2023 at 1:46 pm

    What’s the make and model of your LTO drive? Some LTO drives come with all the required software.

    But even if you don’t have it, downloading a 10 day demo of Yoyotta or Canister will help install all the necessary drivers. Canister automatically downloads all the necessary LTFS, ICS frameworks, and MacFuse drivers which will make your LTO drive recognised by the Mac and then you can decide on which one to buy.

    Get Yoyotta if you need very deep organising of your LTO assets into clients, projects, and any other criteria. Like if you’re writing 50-100 LTOs a year.

    Get Canister if you occasionally write LTOs for backups (about 10-30 a year), and don’t have more than few projects.

    Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Both have excellent online support.

    Canister costs less and is very easy to use. Yoyotta costs more, but has a large amount of controls.

    I use both, for different reasons and use cases.

  • Trevor De kock

    April 5, 2023 at 6:21 pm

    Belated thanks for your feedback and assistance here ! We have an HPE LTO 7 Ultrium 1500 external Tape drive. We purely need this for safety back up with our main archive stored on hard drives . We shoot mainly wildlife documentaries so have high volumes of 6 to 8K footage we need to back up. We have used our LTO 5 for several years on our Macs with no issues and this did not require software from a third party so this is an unexpected costly surprise for us !

    I presume there is no alternative, but to purchase either the Canister or Yoyotta software ?

    The Yoyotta looks a bit cheaper longer term with a one time license.. Any further thoughts most appreciated …

  • Neil Sadwelkar

    April 28, 2023 at 3:01 am

    Trevor,

    It’s likely that your previous LTO 5 model came with some software that wrote LTFS tapes using a free software that used to ship with HP and Tandberg drives. Does that same software not work with this new LTO-7 drive? I Googled it and found HP has the HPE StoreOpen software still available for download. That may work with your drive.

    Two issues I found with LTO tapes written through free drag-and-drop software is that there seems to be no verification of what’s written. And, LTO tapes written like with these softwares, take a very long time to mount and extract data from. As a test you could try your old LTO-5 tapes written with your older software, and check that retrieval is easy and speedy.

    Re: Yoyotta vs Canister, yes there is a price difference and Canister will probably cost more since it’s annual, but even Yoyotta could charge for future upgrades.

    Whichever you decide, its money well spent as easy cataloging and retrieval of tapes is as important as backing up. Whichever you choose, I can also suggest a really good cataloguing software Diskcatalogmaker which lets you create browsable, searchable, offline catalogs of LTO tapes.

    Neil

  • Scott Brown

    December 15, 2023 at 9:04 pm

    We use Yoyotta which has worked well enough and they have been very helpful with any technical queries.

    The user interface badly needs work and simplification though.

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