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  • LTFS Mounting

    Posted by Jorge Bernal on June 22, 2013 at 3:44 am

    Hi,

    I literrally just received and put together a brand new Quantum LTO-6 Tape drive. I am running on an iMac with Mountain Lion and using Sonnet Tech’s Echo Express SE Thunderbolt chassis with an ATTO H680 SAS card to which the Quantum tape drive is plugged into.

    I downloaded a 30 day trial of BRU Producer’s Edition and the software does see the drive. However I’ve also read that the new LTFS software allows for drive mounting in Finder and use “drag and drop” to write stuff to tape.

    I’ve installed the LTFS utility from Quantum but nothing happens nor I can see any LTFS “app” in the applications folder or a preference pane on System Preferences.

    What the heck do I need to do to get it to mount? I am evaluating BRU’s solution and I will likely buy it but in the mean time I need to dump a lot of data of my RAID and I don’t want to run the risk of dumping it with BRU and later decide I want a different solution and have my files stuck on a different format.

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks!

    Tim Jones replied 12 years, 1 month ago 6 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Jorge Bernal

    June 22, 2013 at 4:06 am

    Nevermind…. /facepalm

    I had forgotten to drag the app that was missing into the Applications folder. I thought the LTFS installer did that but I was mistaken.

    All clear now!

    Thanks anyway.

  • Tim Jones

    June 24, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    I am evaluating BRU’s solution and I will likely buy it but in the mean time I need to dump a lot of data of my RAID and I don’t want to run the risk of dumping it with BRU and later decide I want a different solution and have my files stuck on a different format.
    Keep in mind that all BRU products provide full restore capability even after the demo period expired – just for the case that you describe. Our service mark is “BRU … because it’s the RESTORE that matters.” drives what we do and we never want o place a customer – demo or otherwise – into a situation that prevents them from being able to restore there data.

    Tim

    Tim

    Tim Jones
    CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
    https://www.productionbackup.com
    BRU … because it’s the RESTORE that matters!

  • Jorge Bernal

    June 24, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Thanks Tim!

    I am actually about to buy the license right now. After playing with it through the weekend and reading around I realized LTFS is not what I want for archiving.

    Seems to be the right solution for me. I was able to grab a Quantum LTO-6 drive for $2300. Works like a charm with the Thunderbolt chassis and ATTO SAS H680 card. Blazing fast!

    I guess the BRU UI could use a face-lift but it does the job and I didn’t have to spend much more than $3.5k for the whole setup. If only CatDV would spend some time integrating with it it would be even better.

  • Tim Jones

    June 24, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    I guess the BRU UI could use a face-lift but it does the job and I didn’t have to spend much more than $3.5k for the whole setup. If only CatDV would spend some time integrating with it it would be even better.

    We’re always excited to get input from our users on UI design, so please hit support.bru.com and submit a feature request.

    As for CatDV, you can incorporate a BRU archival mechanism with the DAX Broadcast Archive component. DAX acts as the middle manager for maintaining Nearline read and write caching while using the BRU engine to archive or retrieve data from tape.

    Tim

    Tim Jones
    CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
    https://www.productionbackup.com
    BRU … because it’s the RESTORE that matters!

  • Glenn Sakatch

    June 28, 2013 at 4:26 am

    Hey Jorge, i’m running a (Nearly) identical setup to yours.

    Quantum lto 6 ATTO H680 and Echo Express 11 for the chasis connection to a Mac Mini.

    I can’t get either BRU or HP_StoreOpen to find the tape drive. Mini sees the Atto card, but none of the software wants to acknowlege the tape drive.

    Before I try to locate a different cable, can you tell me if you did anything special in the setup. I’ve installed the ATTO driver. I installed an ATTO config tool, but it seems to be for a raid setup, not this particular card.

    Under system information i have a SAS address- so it seems to see the card.

    Am i missing any drivers? Quantum doesn’t seem to have any Mac drivers.

    Did you do any voodoo, or did it just work?

    Thanks

    Glenn

  • Glenn Sakatch

    June 28, 2013 at 5:14 am

    Nevermind. Fell into the trap of trying the drivers that came with the device.

    Downloaded new drivers from the ATTO site, and all seems to be working. Wish companies would stop sending driver discs. They seem to cause more problems then they are worth.

    Glenn

    Glenn

  • Tim Jones

    June 28, 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Glenn,

    Which ATTO card do you have? The H680 and R680 require different drivers. Also, the drivers included in their Driver CD are not the latest, so make sure that you’ve downloaded the latest from ATTO’s site.

    Also, if you have a R3 or H3 card, they are not supported under Thunderbolt.

    Tim

    Tim Jones
    CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
    https://www.productionbackup.com
    BRU … because it’s the RESTORE that matters!

  • Jorge Bernal

    June 28, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    I did have to download the ATTO driver for my H680, other than that BRU saw the drive right away.

    It was easier than I thought. It just took me a while to realize I had to run an additional installer from Quantum for the LTFS software.

    Data transfer is fast! I am impressed at how fast LTO-6 can move a Terabyte of data (about an hour).

  • Neil Sadwelkar

    July 15, 2013 at 9:27 am

    Even if LTFS does what you need it to, you should consider BRU. I have evaluated both and found BRU to be more reliable. Not that I found data missing using LTFS, just that I couldn’t make it work reliably with StoreOpen or any other way with a Tandberg LTO-5 drive.
    Maybe LTFS works better with an HP drive.

    Bru is far more reliable and there is peace of mind that there is verification happening when writing to LTO.
    I believe LTFS does not provide that kind of verification.

    ———————————–
    Neil Sadwelkar
    neilsadwelkar.blogspot.com
    twitter: fcpguru
    FCP Editor, Edit systems consultant
    Mumbai India

  • Tim Jones

    July 15, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    Neil’s right about LTFS – visit this for some “thoughts” – LTFS Caveats – What you need to know.

    And … he got a tad bit ahead of the announcement. BRU Producer’s Edition for Windows is coming. We’re prepping for the start of BETA at the end of this month (July).

    Drag and Drop, high performance with LTO-5 and LTO-6 drives, easily search offline (unmounted) tapes, archival-grade tape format, TRUE cross platform storage and delivery.

    We’ll be announcing as we get closer to the BETA.

    Tim

    Tim Jones
    CTO – TOLIS Group, Inc.
    https://www.productionbackup.com
    BRU … because it’s the RESTORE that matters!

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