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  • lower/upper field

    Posted by Efi Or on August 24, 2009 at 11:37 am

    Hi everybody.
    I’m trying to use RevisionFX Twixtor to get really slow ‘slow motion’ effect.
    therefor, I tuned the ‘speed’ to 5%.
    there problem is, I keep getting strange lines and “rub” at the places where the most motion, why?

    is it got something to do with the lower/upper field? its just the I have no idea what lower/upper field dialog means.
    right now its one NONE at the footage setting and none on the Twixtor.

    any help guys? I’m starting to give up on it.

    Efi Or replied 16 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Todd Kopriva

    August 24, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Is your source footage interlaced? Did you separate video fields when you imported your footage?

  • Curious Turtle

    August 24, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    I’d also add a quick RTFM for Twixtor too. Starting with the fields and see if that solves it.

    All the best,
    Ben

    Curious Turtle Pro Video
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  • Efi Or

    August 24, 2009 at 6:40 pm

    thanks Todd and Ben. I’ll start working on it right now.
    I’ll let you guys know if its working.

  • Efi Or

    August 24, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    nothing guys.
    chose upper field to the footage and in the render setting, AND in the Twixtor.
    still looks stammer and unstable. why cant I make it smooth slow motion?

  • Efi Or

    August 24, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    ok, just rendered out example:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW0py-Y7-Yo
    please help…I cant get slow motion without this annoying side-effect.

  • Curious Turtle

    August 25, 2009 at 4:51 am

    It looks like it’s picking up the black edges from your source video. Try scaling the footage up a small amount, pre-composing the layer and then applying your Twixtor effect.

    Remember to check off “Move all Attributes to the New Composition” when precomping.

    Hope that helps,
    Ben

    Curious Turtle Pro Video
    Training | Editing | Support

  • Ben Rollason

    August 25, 2009 at 10:25 am

    I don’t think it’s a fields issue. The artefacts in your video look to me like the perfectly normal side effects of trying to slow down a piece of video 20 times. Twixtor is very clever – as are the built in frame interpolation methods in After Effects – but these technologies can’t perform miracles.If you’ve slowed down your footage 20 times, the software is having to create 19 frames out of thin air for every one that you shot. The interpolation between frames is linear, which is why you get this strange cadence.

    The more you slow footage down, the more obvious the artefacts become.

    In my experience, using these effects are no match for shooting with a high speed camera and we can’t really expect the results to look the same.

    As a rule of thumb, reduce the shutter time as you shoot by the same factor as you wish to slow the footage down. i.e 4x slow-mo, shutter time = 1/200th. This will make the motion blur match correctly. Apart from that, it’s simply a matter of tweaking the settings until you get it as good as you can.

    https://www.benrollason.com

  • Efi Or

    August 25, 2009 at 1:46 pm

    ok… I tried it all, nothing works.
    seems like you were right, its the crappy camera…hehe.
    I used my 5M Pixel phone camera…guess its time to buy a new one?

    thank you guys for trying to help anyway..good day.

  • Curious Turtle

    August 25, 2009 at 1:56 pm

    I was looking at the wrong problem apparently! :o)

    The other Ben was completely right when he said that 5% is an extreme amount of speed change. You’re trying to get the equivalent of shooting about 500fps just using software. With the best will in the world, that’s not going to happen.

    Hope you find another creative solution for your project.

    Cheers,
    Ben

    Curious Turtle Pro Video
    Training | Editing | Support

  • Efi Or

    August 25, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    Ben.H, lets say I want to make it 5% slow motion.
    is it possible with a good professional camera? (unlike the 5M Pixel phone camera I used.. hehe)
    and if it is possible, maybe you can show me any camera that CAN do it?

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