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  • Lot of questions a time

    Posted by Andreas Kiel on April 9, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    This Easter weekend I thought I should try Multicam/Multiclip again (didn’t work for me/us as most of the video doesn’t have sound, sound is always external and scene/take do come from the audio, which is multiple mono). And yes, our workflow is tape-less.

    Here are the questions (and I really hope I’m doing something wrong and somebody out there can tell me the way how to do).

    1) First the audio. All scene/take settings are imported correctly. When I do synchronize them with 10.0.3 they are in sync sometimes, but the new compound needs to be re-edited to have the right name — and what’s even more important the timecode is lost. So I’m lost in this case as well. This makes this workflow useless for me obviously. What I’m doing wrong?
    Okay I could use the free WaveAgent from Sound Devices to create polyphonic files upfront – but that will lead to other problems.

    2) New approach: sorting Audio and Video by TC, then merge the matching ones (needs a lot of time to figure out sometimes to find the right ones). But here as well; needs a re-edit of the name and to get back scene and take of those as well and TC is lost again. So no use for that as well — specially because there is nothing in sync.

    3) Another approach: Taking the compound from approach 2 and re-sync manually by a clapper, then create a new project with the matching timecode (that one from the original with what ever came first audio or video) and scene/take name, edit to the project and export as movie. Then import this movie. Re-edit scene/take from the given file name. Do that for each take of every camera and then create multiclips which might be in sync. Not the best choice for me/us.

    4) Next approach: I take the first part of approach 3 (which includes approach 2) and create a multiclip from the compounds. Then I edit the multiclip to the timeline. But the audio seems to be gone. I see the waveform, but can’t hear anything — adding additional audio works fine and I can use the multiclip editor and the audio is there and I can here it.

    5) Another try: Select all clips of the event and create a multiclip timeline from there. This works because you can select TC in the options — all stuff is in sync. But (and this is a big BUT) I got a 96 channel multiclip (in the test example I used with 1 card each from 2 cameras) and it’s totally unusable, beside the fact the the “reels” scene/takes are lost anyway.

    6) A new try again: Using our inhouse app* to sync audio and video to write referenced synched clips with the audio metadata (scene/take/note) kept. Works fine and fast(within seconds) with this app — but TC and scene/take/note don’t make it over to FCPX. So this is useless as well.

    7) And a new try again: Using our inhouse app* to sync audio and video to write self-contained synched clips with the audio metadata (scene/take/note) kept. Takes more time to write about 100 gigs in my test setup. The files show up in FCPX with the correct TC. Scene/take/note are not recognized. Multiclip works fine with audio.

    8) No idea anymore

    *) The app looks for QT TC tracks and LTC, syncs based on those infos and creates QT movies and an XML for FCP, which is useless with FCPX as everybody knows. And even if I would create FCPXMLs (you need several of them for one project) scene/take/note (which is just the basic stuff) can’t be transported with FCPXML.

    Spherico
    https://www.spherico.com/filmtools

    Andreas Kiel replied 14 years, 1 month ago 1 Member · 0 Replies
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