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  • loss-less export

    Posted by Ron Cohen on July 5, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Hello,

    I’m going in to a facility in order to layoff my sequence to dibeta.

    In order to avoid bringing in all my drives, I plan to export a QT (‘using current settings’– ntsc DV 29.97) make a new ntsc dv project in their fcp system (6.05), make a new sequence with my QT – and then do the layoff.

    I am wondering if I am suffering any quality loss doing the export, or if the quality is better if I output directly from my timeline?

    Regards,

    Ron

    Matt Callac replied 16 years, 10 months ago 7 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Michael Sacci

    July 6, 2009 at 12:04 am

    The only place you will see any generation lose is when you do transitions, filters or graphics. That said the generation lose is very slight. People do it all the time. I would export a 10 minute clip and bring that in to a new timeline and take a look to see what you think.

    Other options of course are ProRes and Uncompressed but in the end DV is what you have. If it was me I would be using the current settings.

  • Ron Cohen

    July 6, 2009 at 12:12 am

    Thanks Micheal

  • Michael Gissing

    July 6, 2009 at 12:25 am

    I presume the sequence is a finished program, so if it has titles, grades, graphics etc, then uncompressed 10 bit is my choice.

    DV does bad things to titles and I never output a QT in that format

  • Walter Biscardi

    July 6, 2009 at 12:26 am

    [Ron Cohen] “I am wondering if I am suffering any quality loss doing the export, or if the quality is better if I output directly from my timeline? “

    No worse than it already is in the DV codec. Just make it a self contained movie and make sure they have an AJA Kona board or something like that to run your DV timeline directly to DigiBeta.

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  • Ron Cohen

    July 6, 2009 at 12:34 am

    M. Gissing’s presumption is correct:

    “I presume the sequence is a finished program, so if it has titles, grades, graphics etc, then uncompressed 10 bit is my choice.

    DV does bad things to titles and I never output a QT in that format”

    Does that change your guys’ recommendation (export DV QT as opposed to 10bit)?

    Ron

  • Ben Wharton

    July 6, 2009 at 12:48 am

    I concur with Michael –

    Any title work over DV, make your DV sequnece a ProRes 422 timeline, and output as ProRes 422. Just be very careful on transitions – cross fades/dips to blacks esp if you have any from/to text, and you’re using the dreaded text tool. FCP can generate some nasty artifacting for some unknown reason, and it’s a pain to get around it.

    Unless you’re using AE or Motion instead – which is really what you should be doing!

    Good luck.

    Ben

  • Rafael Amador

    July 6, 2009 at 11:48 am

    I agree.
    Go 10b Unc or Prores HQ.
    Don’t forget to set “Render all YUV material in High Precision” and “Render Motion Effects: BEST”.
    All this should help to get a better rendering although it will take a bit longer.
    cheers,
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Matt Callac

    July 6, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    I’d talk to the post house and talk to them to find out the best way for you to deliver it to them.

    I usually suggest 10-bit uncompressed quicktime when people bring me something to layoff. DV-makes graphics look terrible.
    -mattyc

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