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Looks like the FCP X forces converted another AVID editor. Wonder who gets the toaster prize?????
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No software is forever so all of us, young or old have to be nimble and adaptable. Those creative 12 year olds will not be using X in ten years because X will EOL before then given the way the software world works, AVID, Pr & Resolve might be gone by then too, who knows.
Stubborn preference for software is an available luxury when you are running the shop, not being an editor for hire. Expecting that software to stay the same or to remain the best fit is folly.
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[Michael Gissing] ” Those creative 12 year olds will not be using X in ten years because X will EOL before then”
You might be right but who knows. AVID’s been around for 32 years.
I remember people on this page claiming Apple wouldn’t make a new Mac Pro. In a bit they will have made two of them since those wrong predictions.
My main thought was what percentage of those12 year olds will be looking to work for someone else or themselves in the future.
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Smile.
8 years on nearly.
And everyone here still saying exactly what we’re we were posting 8 years ago.
It’s like baptist call and response.
Stasis.
It would almost be comforting, if the entire rest of the world hadn’t gone through so much change in the same period. .
The cameras are shrunk and shooting 4-6k, even the cheap ones..
My lights are all run cool now.
Nobody I know invests in $4,000 wireless VHF lavs any more.
TV transmitters are nearly obsolete
Radio is functionally a dead business walking.
I have a VO booth in my garage where I teleport into video chats most weeks, watched in real time globally.
My cel phone has more raw video, audio and computing reach and connectivity than any TV station I ever worked with.
I have gigabit down AND up internet at a 10th the cost I used to pay for an audio only ISDN line.And this forum is still is at the EXACT same place it was before all that happened. .
The Cheers bar of the internet, frozen in the Hi, Norm! era.
Not sure if that’s comforting or depressing.
It was just a story link. Not a poke in the eye. But these are apparently sensitive times.
Oh well.
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[Tony West] “My main thought was what percentage of those12 year olds will be looking to work for someone else or themselves in the future.”
With all due respect, working for yourself is such a pipe dream. Even if you are self-employed, you still have someone – like clients or the shop you work out of – to answer to. Not everyone will be a “YouTube star”.
Look at high-end feature film and TV editors. They essentially work for themselves. Yet even there they only rarely can dictate a software preferences other than Avid Media Composer, since that’s typically what’s deployed and expected on those productions. And entire team workflows are built around that as a known quantity.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Bill Davis] “It was just a story link. Not a poke in the eye. But these are apparently sensitive times.”
I’ve often thought that any sentence that contains the word “just”, as in “just a story link,” needs to be looked at closely. “Just” is often a con man’s best weapon, employed to hide an important point behind a cover of irrelevance. It’s “just” $99 dollars, it’s “just” a few blocks away, we’re “just” friends. Whenever I see such a sentence I immediately listen to it again without the “just” – as in “it was a story link.” Yes it was, and it was the same sort of link you have been posting for the past 5 years. And it contains the same overstatement and hyperbole that we have all grown so used to. So if you’re looking for the cause of this stasis you mention, you might want to look in a mirror.
[Bill Davis] “8 years on nearly.”
And X still hasn’t taken the world by storm. It’s an important part of the post eco system, used by a significant number of editors, and fully capable in many workflows. But I’d argue that it is, after 8 years of exposure, still less significant in the overall post world than FCP 7 was when it was EOL’d.
Which shouldn’t matter to anyone who is happily using it, but the distance between the proselytizing and the facts is a bit of an irritation, something less than a poke in the eye and more like a loose eyelash.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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I don’t know if you are aware of it or not but you contradicted yourself in the same post.
First you wrote….
[Oliver Peters] “working for yourself is such a pipe dream”
Then you wrote…….
[Oliver Peters] “Look at high-end feature film and TV editors. They essentially work for themselves. “
I disagree with both statements anyway.
I didn’t think I would need to explain it with all the vets on this page but I guess I do. One example of working for yourself in this biz would be, you approach the same client that the production house approaches instead of the production house. There’s nobody in-between you and the client.
[Oliver Peters] “Not everyone will be a “YouTube star”.”
Ah……….yeah, who said they would? There is plenty of money to be made on Youtube without ever putting your face on there. People get paid these days to put commercials up there and on FB. Those weren’t avenues before. Heck, are you sure you really make more money than some of the people that are shooting weddings these days? I mean, have you seen any of these people’s stuff? A friend just showed me the “trailer” to their family member’s wedding video. It was fantastic. The “Trailer”, dude. I can only imagine how the actual video itself will look. It’s a whole nother game out there these days, with all due respect.
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I think this forum has come along way in 8 years.
We have all accepted FCPX for what is. Seems like you are still searching for some sort of validation.
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[Tony West] “One example of working for yourself in this biz would be, you approach the same client that the production house approaches instead of the production house. There’s nobody in-between you and the client.”
Yep. I live in that world every day. It simply doesn’t pan out for most people in reality.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com
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[Oliver Peters] “[Tony West] “One example of working for yourself in this biz would be, you approach the same client that the production house approaches instead of the production house. There’s nobody in-between you and the client.”
Yep. I live in that world every day. It simply doesn’t pan out for most people in reality.”
You don’t live or work in my town but if you ever want to come here I’ll take you on a tour of shuttered post house buildings and ad agencies that were king back in the day that don’t exist anymore. It’s working out for plenty.
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come out to LA, ill take you on a tour of brand new post houses and agencies. A new one pops up seemingly every day.
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