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Looking for two “anti-zoom/pan” filters for FCP….
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unfortunately, beyond the capabilites of Apple’s FXScript architecture, I don’t know what might be possible…
as i understand it, the DV Start/Stop detection is something implemented by Apple and is not a ‘filter’ per se ?certainly, the statistical analysis of the frame content could be used to indicate potential whip pans and crash zooms
but as an FCP plugin i don’t see how this could be implemented effectivelyand you’d STILL have to look through your footage anyway, its such a fundamental part of the process … and in a non-linear world we don’t even have to spool through it. we just scrub real quick hitting the m key where the good shots start and stop. BAM. we’re marked up and good to go, we’ve filtered out the the crash zooms and whip pans along with all the other crap too.
everyone may (or may not) have one great idea/invention in them … but this isn’t yours, Martin. 🙂
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You’re right, of course, Andy. Oh well, I just thought I’d ask. Thanks again everybody.
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For crying out loud buddy, capitalize your sentences! It’s annoying to look at, more less try to read. A couple periods would be nice too. It’s one thing to write a quick blurb sentence, but you’re writing paragraphs without periods and capitals. You’ve got great things to say, but the lack of elementary punctuation is distracting.
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Bret, are you replying to me??
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Don’t listen to these folks. It’s a fine idea. I’m not sure how good it would be, in that you’d surely have to go back and tweak. Plus it would probably have to analyze the scene much like a stabilizer filter. You’d probably have to specify what area for it to track as well. So for something this quick and simple, I think it would actually be more work setting up and applying the filter, then tweaking the results, then checking to make sure it caught everything.
So, a good idea if it were flawless. Any problems and obviously it would be quicker to just scrub through your footage or ff through it and do it by hand. Even better, use the multicam tools in FCP 5. The minute a camera moves, mark the edit. You could probably go back and tweak each edit a set amount like 30 frames or something. I can’t remember, but there might even be an offset setting. There should be.
Good luck.
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[Bret Williams] “I think it would actually be more work setting up and applying the filter, then tweaking the results, then checking to make sure it caught everything.
So, a good idea if it were flawless. Any problems and obviously it would be quicker to just scrub through your footage or ff through it and do it by hand”
I agree, Bret – I’m coming round to think that too. It is probably more effort to tweak the settings on this mythical filter, than doing the cuts manually.
(BTW: I see your reply about capitalisation and periods wasn’t replying to me! Sorry!)
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[mooblie] “I resent the insinuation that we don’t know what we’re doing in either shooring or editing: it’s a deliberate shooting style for the reasons outlined previously.”
Nothing at all wrong with your workflow. In a wedding situation you need to keep rolling so you don’t miss anything.
My point is that if you’re editing the footage, you need to look through it all anyway, so flag the pans/zooms as you go. That’s what an editor does as part of their job. You look through the footage and cull together the best stuff and cut out the bad. Is it time consuming and tedious? You bet, but that’s part of the job and it’s why I charge by the hour.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[Walter Biscardi] “My point is that if you’re editing the footage, you need to look through it all anyway, so flag the pans/zooms as you go. That’s what an editor does as part of their job. You look through the footage and cull together the best stuff and cut out the bad. Is it time consuming and tedious?”
Absolutely, Walter, but it’s SOOO time consuming and tedious, that I was (wrongly) hoping to speed things up using a, well, computer! 🙂
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[mooblie] “Absolutely, Walter, but it’s SOOO time consuming and tedious, that I was (wrongly) hoping to speed things up using a, well, computer! :)”
Welcome to Editing 101. Editing is a tedious job and you spend more time with the tedious stuff that you do with the creative. I spend 3/4 of my time logging and digitizing and 1/4 actually editing and compositing. That’s the nature of the business.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[Shane Ross] “There are no such filters. This is what is called editing, and editing is looking at your footage to find what you want and don’t want, and assembling it into a coherent, and one would hope artisitic, manner.”
Yep, what I’ve seen on these forums over the past few months is a real trend towards laziness. “Can’t we have filters that do this that and the other so I don’t have to?”
Editing is a tedious, time-consuming profession that is not all about using the latest filters and doing a 100 layer composite. It’s about weeding through 100 hours of footage to put together the best 60 minutes.
Why don’t we just make editing filters so you can simply call up a Documentary or a Music Video so then everyone can be editors. There’s a real skill and a craft to video editing and filters are not a part of story telling.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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