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  • Looking for neg spotting prog – remove scratches/dust etc with painting…

    Posted by Justin Tan on January 31, 2006 at 9:21 am

    I know there are many automated plugins, but I was wandering if there were any which worked similar to Flame/Smoke…

    IE: you have 2xlayer of the same video. paint on top layer to reveal second layer, and be able to slip the layer beneath as you wish – the main key factor being that the layer underneath works as if it is singular frames, IE if u slip frame 24, frame 25 remains as it is, you only slip per frame instead of the entire footage…

    now I’m probably asking too much, BUT having something which just allows you to clone or paint directly on the viewer window would be great…

    the facility is currently using Shake but it’s not real time and we would use flame/smoke but it can’t do HD real time as well..

    I have also tried Boris effects plugs and reeleffects as well with no success…

    really appreciate any help you can provide

    Justin

    Justin Tan replied 20 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • Chris Poisson

    January 31, 2006 at 2:32 pm

    Justin,

    CHV makes a clone tool that is just excellent and not expensive. Works really well, but you do have to render it.

    Have a wonderful day.

  • Justin Tan

    February 1, 2006 at 3:10 am

    thank you for your response, I actually found this just after the post… it’s a great lil plugin, but I wish you were able to work on it frame by frame (ie it’ paints only to the frame you are on) instead of being persistant. atm I am testng the demo and it requires either razoring the frame or using keyframes…

    Other issue, is that you can’t jsut move the clone points, you have to select the + to move them…

    the other issue I have is whether it is 10bit or not….

    I really can’t tell, but it actually matters because we are working o 444 10bit HD and it needs to remain so throughout the entire process….

    any ideas?

    I have emailed the developer but ya any thoughts would be great.

    Side note, been trialing silhouette paint and it’s like GREAT, only issue is it only works in 8bit (due to FCP AE plugin limit) and there is a huge change in the blacks because of this. 🙁

  • Chris Poisson

    February 1, 2006 at 7:09 pm

    Justin,

    I have found it very easy to keyframe. Don’t know about the 10 bit issue.

    Have a wonderful day.

  • Justin Tan

    February 1, 2006 at 9:31 pm

    o it is easy to key frame, don’t get me wrong, but when you’re doing feature film after feature film, the time adds up unfortunately…

    thx for your response though

  • Paul Miller

    February 17, 2006 at 9:21 pm

    Have you tried Silhouette Paint? It runs as a plugin inside FCP and lets you do the clone painting you are talking about.

    https://www.silhouettefx.com

    Note – there is a huge bug in FCP that causes 10-bit media to have color shifts, so for now it is only viable as an 8-bit solution within FCP.

  • Justin Tan

    February 18, 2006 at 1:00 am

    I have Paul, that is my main dillema it will only work as 8bit…

    I am actually considering the purchase of Aftereffects as it is meant to support multibridge extreme for real tinme playback. that way I can export a reference QT, view in RT and then paint in AE. Any ideas?

    Is there a plugin for AE that will work in 10+bits and allow you to neg spot by revealing (IE erase the negspot and select what frame it should reveal under it)

  • Paul Miller

    February 18, 2006 at 1:44 pm

    Yeah, Silhouette inside AE works perfectly at 8, 16 and soon float. The clone brush features in Silhouette Paint let you do what you want pretty easily.

  • Justin Tan

    February 18, 2006 at 2:14 pm

    Paul, do u know if you can neg spot like in flame/smoke?

    select frame to spot, select frame that will be the bottom/revealed layer and then paint to reveal the spot?

    from my quick testing in paint (stand alone and plugin) I wasn’t sure about how to do this…

    I have placed a similar thread in AE now to see if this might be the way to go… or if there is another option…

    having to purchase AE and the silhouette looks to be a big purchase, so I want to see if there are any other options…

    PLUS the fact u have to go into another window to do the neg spot is a bit of a pain … EG play back in RT, find frame to spot, go into “paint window”, paint out, go back to RT app (eg AE or FC) play back and so on…. not as elegant as I would like….

    SIDE NOTE: i don’t know anything about programming, but is it hard to make a “simple” FCP plugin to do what I ask? how much would it cost for someone to make it for me hehe…

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