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Long time editor’s frustration with FCPX
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yeah, you’re going to have to figure that one out for yourself. If I made a list of reasons why it makes sense, I’d start a whole ‘nuther conversation which would be the umpteenth repeat of similar threads, right?
Good luck and thanks,
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One of the things I’ve noticed in using Avid on a job recently is just how much time and head space is taken up doing all the little things that X does for you – patching audio, selecting clips (i.e not being able to skim) and the like – it really is much slower for my style of editing.
Then I use X and rail against the niggles that mar an otherwise brilliant editing package – the way the screen layout changes with opening and closing scopes etc. I get why, it’s just frustrating as it seems to work agains muscle memory in the way a fixed UI doesn’t. Ditto with Apples interesting take on centering when zooming in and out (and the scale of the zoom which is way too severe IMHO) – all little things which should be resolved but seem to be forgotten or unimportant. But those are minor things really – the pea under the mattress. I do find more and more that Avid feels like a cumbersome old thing compared with X. I’m cutting a doc next month where X would be perfect – but theres no chance the client will go for using it, they’re too wedded to Avid. Such is the freelance life.
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[David Lawrence] “”Sequence” and “Project” are terms that have very specific, commonly understood, technical meaning throughout the entire industry for decades.”
I agree and Apple’s disregard for industry standard is misguided.
“Library” as a name for the master folder is a bit more complicated. A library is a master container so in this sense it’s name is descriptive. However, if you organize your libraries so that each is its own “project” container then it seems a bit off. A brick and mortar library in the real world holds all available media which is rather poor organization for a NLE and was exactly how FCP X started out – one large library that held all your media.
I think “timeline” is a better term than “sequence”. When you open a FCP X “project”, what you open is a timeline.
It may even be blank or hold one compound clip.Let’s be honest a bin or an event is just a folder and different folks organize their media differently. Some by events, or days of production, or camera angle or subjects or whatever. It changes often by the nature of the project at hand.
I know what Panasonic means by auto white balance. The camera sets the white balance when you aim at white card and press the AWB button. But every other manufacturer calls this a manual white balance. And that is the industry standard name. Stupid decision on Panasonic’s part. A project is a timeline? No, it’s not.
I would call the library a project folder. I would call the event a media folder. I would just allow an editor to create folders inside the project folder which anyone who uses any computer understands. And I would call a timeline a timeline.
Mac Pro, macbook pro, Imacs (i7); Canon 5D Mark III/70D, Panasonic AG-HPX170/AG-HPX250P, Canon HV40, Sony Z7U/VX2000/PD170; FCP 6 certified; FCP X write professionally for a variety of media; teach video production in L.A.
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Ha, interesting. I am happy if I can do AVID again.
I find AVID much faster and sleeker than FCPX on hardcore editing and cutting, shaping and reworking: you can see everything at one glance. The timeline centers on your playhead the moment you stop, you know where you are. In-Points in your timeline make you go back to where you were instantly, audio work is much directer and faster and present ON your timeline (no opening up and closing audio), you can customise your window layout depending on what kind of work you do (color, audio, editing) with one key stroke and most of all: I think the AVID mediamanagement system is much, much better: it always runs smoothly, while FCPX is doing all these things in the background and gets very slow after 1,5-2 hours of editing. Especially if you have several layers of video/graphics/titels etc…
FCPX is an adolescent in the NLE: frivolous, fun, elegant sometimes, but also erratic and undeveloped.
But it’s a different time. I’ve recently worked with several FCPX editors who hated FCP7 and love FCPX. But they never ever editing in a three-point editing system. It’s hard comparing then. I used FCP7 in an AVID like set-up and it could work faster on it than on FCPX.
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“So is an empty timeline with no content a project or still a timeline?”
The empty timeline window is just that – a timeline window or pane of the UI. In X, the content within that pane is the project.
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Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Mike Warmels] “I find AVID much faster and sleeker than FCPX on hardcore editing and cutting, shaping and reworking…”
One of the things that gets overlooked in these speed arguments is the design of user interaction with keystrokes. Part of what people like about MC is that when you perform a function or engage a keystroke, the place where you are left for the next action is a more functional point than with other NLEs.
An oft-sited example is the number entry. If you enter a number value and hit enter, that value is stored so that when you hit enter again, it applies the same value until a different entry is made. Let’s say that you mark an in point and then type in +2:00 and Enter to advance 2 seconds. Then mark out. Make the edit. Now move farther down on the sequence and mark-in. Simply hit Enter and it automatically advances +2:00 from the point. Just one little example of the value of 25+ years of accumulated user input and product development.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Oliver Peters] “The empty timeline window is just that – a timeline window or pane of the UI. In X, the content within that pane is the project.”
So to ask you the same question I asked Jeremy. What is a project over and above being a Timeline?
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[Oliver Peters] “Just one little example of the value of 25+ years of accumulated user input and product development.”
Would the playhead being in the middle of the timeline be too difficult a thing to do for Apple instead of constantly having to use the hand tool? (I’m sure there’s a shortcut somebody’s going to tell me I don’t know about here). Having the playhead disappear out of the Timeline “window” is annoying too isn’t it.
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[James Ewart] “Would the playhead being in the middle of the timeline be too difficult a thing to do for Apple”
So how many times have you been here about that?
https://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html
And btw: it DOES in fact center in the timeline, if the playhead leaves the window and is stopped. If it did even when it didn’t leave the window, I personally would find that highly annoying.
– RK
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[Robin S. Kurz] “So how many times have you been here about that?”
At a guess I would day I have left feedback on that particular matter about ten times over the years.
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