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  • long filename glitch in vegas 5d + xp pro sp2 – error report deciphering help please

    Posted by Simon on June 3, 2006 at 7:42 pm

    hi,

    i’ve been recording audio files via vegas 5d into a maxtor 250gb sata NTFS formatted media drive enabled for use beyond 137 gb (through maxblast 4 software) and XP Pro.

    for some reason, coming back to access and work with some of these files, i’m experiencing problems.

    that is, upon attempting to bring them in from explorer to the timeline, they cannot be accessed and vegas reports an error and the app closes down.

    here is a copy of some of the error messages:
    ——————————————————————
    Sony Vegas 5.0
    Version 5.0d (Build 194)
    Exception 0xC0000005 (access violation) WRITE:0x57005F IP:0x7C901095
    In Module ‘ntdll.dll’ at Address 0x7C900000 + 0x1095
    Thread: GUI ID=0x6C0 Stack=0x12B000-0x130000
    Registers:
    EAX=ffffffff CS=001b EIP=7c901095 EFLGS=00210282
    EBX=00000000 SS=0023 ESP=0012bcd4 EBP=00000000
    ECX=00000000 DS=0023 ESI=0057004f FS=003b
    EDX=0057005b ES=0023 EDI=00000001 GS=0000
    Bytes at CS:EIP:
    7C901095: F0 0F B1 4A 04 75 1C 83 …J.u..
    7C90109D: C4 04 64 8B 0D 18 00 00 ..d…..
    Stack Dump:
    0012BCD4: E0818D00
    0012BCD8: 0111EECC 01000000 + 11EECC (vegas50k.dll)
    0012BCDC: 0057005B 00400000 + 17005B (vegas50.exe)
    0012BCE0: 0012C930 00030000 + FC930
    0012BCE4: 00000000
    0012BCE8: 0012C990 00030000 + FC990
    0012BCEC: 0050558A 00400000 + 10558A (vegas50.exe)
    0012BCF0: 0057004F 00400000 + 17004F (vegas50.exe)
    0012BCF4: 005090D5 00400000 + 1090D5 (vegas50.exe)
    0012BCF8: 0000004E
    0012BCFC: 0000004E
    0012BD00: 0012C7A4 00030000 + FC7A4
    0012BD04: 00000000
    0012BD08: 00000000
    0012BD0C: 0012C62C 00030000 + FC62C
    0012BD10: 01068510 01000000 + 68510 (vegas50k.dll)
    – – –
    0012FFF0: 00000000
    0012FFF4: 00000000
    0012FFF8: 0072EAA0 00400000 + 32EAA0 (vegas50.exe)
    0012FFFC: 00000000

    Sony Vegas 5.0
    Version 5.0d (Build 194)
    Exception 0xC0000005 (access violation) READ:0x76 IP:0x118370C
    In Module ‘vegas50k.dll’ at Address 0x1000000 + 0x18370C
    Thread: GUI ID=0x9F8 Stack=0x12C000-0x130000
    Registers:
    EAX=00000076 CS=001b EIP=0118370c EFLGS=00210202
    EBX=00060198 SS=0023 ESP=0012c8e0 EBP=0012cdac
    ECX=8004e007 DS=0023 ESI=01a889b0 FS=003b
    EDX=00000000 ES=0023 EDI=77d4b8ba GS=0000
    Bytes at CS:EIP:
    0118370C: 8B 00 8B 4C 24 4C 89 01 …L: 33 C0 89 44 24 24 89 44 3..D$.D
    Stack Dump:
    0012C8E0: 00000000
    0012C8E4: 01A889B0 01A60000 + 289B0
    0012C8E8: FFFFFFFF
    0012C8EC: 00226570 00140000 + E6570
    0012C8F0: 00050230 00030000 + 20230
    0012C8F4: 0012C8EC 00030000 + FC8EC
    0012C8F8: 0012C918 00030000 + FC918
    0012C8FC: 77D4B903 77D40000 + B903 (USER32.dll)
    0012C900: 00060232 00030000 + 30232
    0012C904: 0147EEA0 01450000 + 2EEA0
    0012C908: 00000000
    0012C90C: 0012C930 00030000 + FC930
    0012C910: 00000000
    0012C914: 01A889B0 01A60000 + 289B0
    0012C918: 00000017
    0012C91C: 0116A909 01000000 + 16A909 (vegas50k.dll)
    > 0012C950: 0116EF8B 01000000 + 16EF8B (vegas50k.dll)
    0012C954: 00000017
    > 0012C958: 0116F036 01000000 + 16F036 (vegas50k.dll)
    > 0012C95C: 0116F066 01000000 + 16F066 (vegas50k.dll)
    0012C960: 01A892D0 01A60000 + 292D0
    0012C964: 00000017
    0012C968: 01A889B0 01A60000 + 289B0
    0012C96C: 0012EF98 00030000 + FEF9

    Sony Vegas 5.0
    Version 5.0d (Build 194)
    Exception 0xC0000005 (access violation) WRITE:0x6C0075 IP:0x7C901095
    In Module ‘ntdll.dll’ at Address 0x7C900000 + 0x1095
    Thread: GUI ID=0xA80 Stack=0x12B000-0x130000
    Registers:
    EAX=ffffffff CS=001b EIP=7c901095 EFLGS=00210202
    EBX=00000001 SS=0023 ESP=0012bcd4 EBP=00000000
    ECX=00000000 DS=0023 ESI=006c0065 FS=003b
    EDX=006c0071 ES=0023 EDI=00000001 GS=0000
    Bytes at CS:EIP:
    7C901095: F0 0F B1 4A 04 75 1C 83 …J.u..
    7C90109D: C4 04 64 8B 0D 18 00 00 ..d…..
    Stack Dump:
    0012BCD4: CC006C00
    0012BCD8: 0111EECC 01000000 + 11EECC (vegas50k.dll)
    0012BCDC: 006C0071 00400000 + 2C0071 (vegas50.exe)
    0012BCE0: 0012C930 00030000 + FC930
    0012BCE4: 00000000
    0012BCE8: 0012C990 00030000 + FC990
    0012BCEC: 00505570 00400000 + 105570 (vegas50.exe)
    0012BCF0: 006C0065 00400000 + 2C0065 (vegas50.exe)
    0012BCF4: 005090D5 00400000 + 1090D5 (vegas50.exe)
    0012BCF8: 0000004E
    0012BCFC: 0000004E
    0012BD00: 0012C7A4 00030000 + FC7A4
    0012BD04: 00000000
    0012BD08: 00000000
    0012BD0C: 0012C62C 00030000 + FC62C
    0012BD10: 01068510 01000000 + 68510 (vegas50k.dll)
    – – –
    0012FFF0: 00000000
    0012FFF4: 00000000
    0012FFF8: 0072EAA0 00400000 + 32EAA0 (vegas50.exe)
    0012FFFC: 00000000

    —————————————————————

    can anyone out there decipher these messages? what is happening?

    i’ve noticed that most, not all, of the windows media audio files that give me trouble have very long filenames; i named them so so that they may easily be differentiated from one another, as there are many.

    when i’m out of vegas and in the OS’s explorer, and i doubleclick on one of these troublesome files, a windows media window comes up, yet the files won’t play.

    please know that when initially recording these files and giving them their long names, i had no problems with accessing or playing them. the problems only seemed to present themselves upon restarting my system.

    would there be something else going on? a bios upgrade for my motherboard perhaps; switching the drive from cable select to master? please know, i do not use RAID – i have a separate OS/system drive, media drives, and render drives. also, my system drivers & OS are up-to-date

    why can’t these files be accessed? where have they gone?

    has anyone experienced this?

    all help is most appreciated,
    simon

    Valvehead replied 19 years, 11 months ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
  • 6 Replies
  • Simon

    June 3, 2006 at 8:36 pm

    hi,

    an update…

    found this from the microsoft site dated jan 2005:
    ————————————————————
    NTFS Naming Conventions
    File and directory names can be up to 255 characters long, including any extensions. Names preserve case, but are not case sensitive. NTFS makes no distinction of filenames based on case. Names can contain any characters except for the following: ? ” / \ < > * | :

    Currently, from the command line, you can only create file names of up to 253 characters.
    ————————————————————

    i’ve counted my longest filenames and they’re in the 200 chracter range, not 240 or 250+ range.

    please, if anyone has experience with this, let me know your findings. it is really disconcerting.

    i’ll try to keep my filenames shorter, though i seem to be within microsoft’s NTFS safe range.

    so then, is this a Vegas thing – something else?

    thanks again,
    simon

  • Valvehead

    June 4, 2006 at 4:29 am

    I’m really suspicious of Maxblast. I used it a few years ago with a 40GB Maxtor drive in an old 200Mz HP computer. Its IDE controller wouldn’t work beyond 8GB so I tried the Maxblast software. It worked fine for a while until strange problems started occuring. File creation dates would randomly change, and whole folders would become unreadable. I then bought a Promise PCI IDE controller and reformatted the drive without Maxblast. It worked just fine from then on.

    The only reason to use Maxblast would be on an older computer whose IDE controller doesn’t support larger drives. Since a PCI IDE (or SATA) controller card doesn’t cost much, there really isn’t a good reason to trust your valuable data to a software workaround.


    Dave

  • Simon

    June 4, 2006 at 3:17 pm

    Hi Valvehead,

    Thank you so much for the information.

    The maxtor 250gb SATA drive in question is presently hooked up directly to the motherboard’s onboard primary (it has two) SATA channel. The motherboard is a DFI nF2 U400SG-AGF.

    There are no SATA controller cards in this system at the moment.

    If I’m reading you correctly, you are suggesting that I buy and install a SATA controller card to ensure drive stability and data integrity? Yes?

    Is there a way to find these “lost” or misplaced files – I am still hopefull they’re in the system somewhere, perhaps under diffrent names?

    I suppose I should transfer whatever files are there on another drive or burn them onto disk and reformat the 250gb SATA Maxtor drive…

    many thanks,
    simon

  • Simon

    June 4, 2006 at 6:58 pm

    hi Valvehead, and all interested others who may be of help,

    i copied the entire lot of these wav files (accessible & inaccessible) to ‘MY DOCUMENTS’ folder on my system drive and the ‘LOST’ ones magically reappeared, albeit under different/reassigned names.

    all are now accessible and seem to work fine – and i am able to rename them, but will hold off until further input.

    out of a total of 280 wav files, 127 were reassigned names! also know that there were a couple of word files in there that this also happened to.

    here’s an example of the kind of filename i originally started with:
    1997 february 27 SIDE B 00m00s – LAID BACK GROOVY FUNKY BASS LINE-MELODY

    this is the kind of filename i’m getting now:
    SIDEA1~1 or SIDEA2~1

    what’s going on here? what should i do?

    really perplexed,
    simon

  • Simon

    June 5, 2006 at 1:52 am

    forgot to add that the original inaccessible files on my media drive are still inaccessible…

    all advice and input still very welcome,
    simon

  • Valvehead

    June 6, 2006 at 4:28 am

    I’m not an expert in computers (though I did build my own). I will try to help you as much as I can.

    I’m not saying that using an add-on SATA adapter will inherently make your system more stable. I recommended the add-on card as a possibly more secure option than Maxblast simply because it’s what worked for me. Not knowing your system specs I wrongly assumed that it was an older system requiring the use of Maxblast to bypass the capacity limitation. From the info I can find on Maxtor’s site about Maxblast, it seems that it’s only necessary to use it if you actually encounter the 137GB limit. I’m only saying that I don’t trust Maxblast because of my own personal experience with it.

    At what point did you discover that you were limited to 137GB? Did the BIOS not recognize the capacity correctly or lock up on booting? Your motherboard is fairly new, and if the BIOS and chipset drivers are up to date you shouldn’t be limited there. Go to the DFI website to see if there are any updated BIOS and driver downloads for your motherboard.

    If the BIOS recognized the drive properly, did the drive not show up properly in windows? To see the capacity that Windows recognizes go to Control Panel>Adminstartive Tools>Computer Management>Disk Management. The bottom chart shows the physical drives with their total capacities in the left column. What version of Windows XP are you using? I believe that Service Pack 1 added support for drives beyond 137GB.

    Did you set the Cylinder Limitation Jumper (CLJ) on the drive? This is only for older systems and will unnecessarily limit the capacity of the drive.

    As far as recovering your current files, you already did what I would have recommended. If copying the files to another drive doesn’t make them readable, then you will probably need to seek help from a professional data recovery service.

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