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  • Logo to globe with dots

    Posted by Scott Bush on November 19, 2007 at 5:14 pm

    Hi all, I hope I can explain this well, as I am not really supposed to post the images in a public forum…

    I have been asked to do an animation of our company logo morphing into a globe. The Logo is made up of many little dots, and the dots should fly around and expand to eventually settle as a “globe” (the globe is made up of the same dots arranged in a sphere).

    Here’s the thing – I was provided with 2D photoshop artwork, with 4 “stages” of the animation – the first is the Logo in dots, the second is what looks like a flattened globe, the third is the globe taking more of a round shape, and the last is the finished globe.

    The stages were only provided as finished layers (the dots are not separated into their own layers).

    I think the client wants the dots to “come to life” and fly around – but I am thinking I don’t have enough materials to make this happen — it sounds like what they want is 3D. I have played with Ball Action a little, and gotten some decent results, but cannot find a way to have it “hit” the various stages I was given.

    Do I need more materials? If I could get the artist to provide more layers would it help? Any thoughts on how to approach this would greatly appreciated, as I am pretty stuck. Thanks,

    Scott Bush

    Ron Lindeboom replied 18 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
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  • Matthew Mccarter (macattack)

    November 19, 2007 at 5:24 pm

    Try Trapcode Particular… it should help.

    Joe Chao has a good tut on this as well using particular.

  • Scott Bush

    November 19, 2007 at 6:17 pm

    Thanks for the info – looked at the tutorial. The client I think wants to stick with the design they have, so is there any way to integrate my intermediate drawings in the mix? How about if I tried to autotrace and then paste the mask values as mask shape keyframes? This would keep it 2D but that’s fine I think. Or is using the limited artwork that I have not a possibility? I think I can post it as long as I remove our logo from it – if you think that would help.

  • Ron Lindeboom

    November 19, 2007 at 6:36 pm

    This is an insane request and if they want their finished images integrated into the mix, then they should give you the elements as separate and distinctly isolated objects/elements that you can then match to look like their “roughs” — as that is all those images are, no matter how pretty they may look to themselves.

    Otherwise, you are going to have a rough time — no, an impossible time — matching the chroma/luma values and the size/placement of the objects.

    Tell them that I said they are crazy and need to have their heads examined for even making such a request.

    Also, if you can get the objects and elements they want used … think backward.

    Create the finished look you want to end up with and then “deconstruct” the look into the various levels of target element placement that they want to see.

    Then just remap the thing to play backwards.

    It is way easier to start with the finished look. It is far harder to guess which objects should be where, when, so that you end up with a smooth animation and the look you want in the end. That is a far rougher ride.

    But the best way to work is to use their images as an inspirational starting point and/or storyboard and build the elements yourself using AE’s tools and plug-ins.

    Best regards,

    Ron Lindeboom
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  • Scott Bush

    November 19, 2007 at 6:53 pm

    Haha thanks, Ron – and trust me, I tell them that all the time. This kind of craziness is certainly the norm rather than the exception. As long as I can show what they consider “due diligence” I am usually able to convince them that we need to take another route.

    That said, what would you suggest as far as which tools to use? I don’t have particular, and doubt I’d be able to convence them to buy it (although I can try). Is a particle generator the way to go? I’m not very experienced with them – always seem to have trouble when it is something that requires a very specific shape. Would creating the dots as solids and then arranging them work better you think?

    Any way I look at this it appears to be quite a job – I doubt they are going to want to out the time in that it seems this will take. What could I/should I ask the graphic designer for to help me further?

    Thanks again,
    Scott

  • Ron Lindeboom

    November 19, 2007 at 7:14 pm

    If you are having trouble with AE’s particle tools, then you must have either Trapcode’s Particular or particleIllusion from wondertouch.

    There is a reason that both of these tools are so popular and sell so well, in spite of the fact that AE has its own built-in particle tools.

    Tell ’em I said they’re both crazy and cheap — if they won’t buy you what you need.

    Man, I am glad they are your bosses and not mine.

    :o)

    Best regards,

    Ron Lindeboom
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