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  • Live type jumps up and down in sequence (subtle)

    Posted by Elijah Lynn on January 14, 2009 at 7:14 am

    I inherited this project and I have a DV timeline with some livetype titles in them. It is just straight white text and no actual livetype or anything else being used (as far as I can tell.

    During playback in FCP it is like this vertical vibration on the text.

    Any ideas?

    Elijah Lynn replied 17 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Elijah Lynn

    January 14, 2009 at 8:16 am

    Here is an example. Still trying to figure out the aliasing problem too.

  • David Roth weiss

    January 14, 2009 at 8:40 am

    They’re not jumping here, just hit with typical DV compression. So, go to Sequence>>Settings and change the compressor to DV50, ProRes, or 8-bit uncompressed and re-render.

    For the record Elijah, the reason this works is because the DV codec compresses everything in the 4:0:1 color space, where as the other codecs are 4:2:2. — 4:0:1 color space is just fine for moving video, but with text and graphics it looks like Hell, because it throws out five pixels for every one it keeps, and then it interpolates (“guess-timates”) the colors of nearest neighbor pixels. That’s why you see all kinds of artifacts around text and graphics like aliasing, fringing, etc. Got it?

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
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    Los Angeles

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  • Elijah Lynn

    January 14, 2009 at 8:50 am

    Hi David,

    That makes perfect sense. However, I just tried ProRes and Uncompressed and the symptoms are the same.

  • David Roth weiss

    January 14, 2009 at 8:59 am

    How are you monitoring?

    Also, do your RT settings look like this?

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Elijah Lynn

    January 14, 2009 at 9:05 am

    I didn’t have the “safe rt” checked but now I do and all other settings were the same. The wiggling is still present after I set in and out points around that area and do a cmd+R to render. It is noticeable when I scrub through it as well.

    At one point it may have had a shift fields filter. It is scaled to 74% but when I scale it to 100% it does the same. The Aspect ratio under basic motion is set to 0.

  • Elijah Lynn

    January 14, 2009 at 9:10 am

    Oh, I am monitoring on a LCD. Hanns G generic 28″. I have a Dell 19″ I dragged it onto as well.

  • Rafael Amador

    January 14, 2009 at 9:22 am

    Hi Elijah,
    Have you exported the titles as interlaced from LiveType?
    Are you repositioning them in FC?
    Rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • David Roth weiss

    January 14, 2009 at 9:25 am

    Well, someday you’re gonna have to get yourself setup to monitor video on a real video monitor so you can really see what you’ve got. These computer graphic displays that people call video monitors are far from reliable for real video.

    Honestly, on my monitors your sample doesn’t look very bad and it’s not jumping, so I have no idea what’s up at your place. Sorry!

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Elijah Lynn

    January 14, 2009 at 9:28 am

    I think the LiveType slide is just saved and embedded (round tripped?) straight into FCP. They do appear to have been repositioned as the “center” parameter in the “basic motion” section have numbers in them.

  • Rafael Amador

    January 14, 2009 at 9:35 am

    Try exporting from LiveType and import to FC.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

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