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  • Live multi-cam editing and streaming in Premiere?

    Posted by Errol Lazare on February 5, 2013 at 11:05 pm

    One thing that I have always wondered is if it would be possible to capture multiple channels of video footage shot live into premiere and do multi-cam switching. Basically I would like to stream the video footage out of premiere to the internet and at the same time have all my cuts made for later editing.

    If not possible in premiere is there a way to use another program for the streaming and then have an XML or EDL to be able to see all the live cuts that we made and modify it for future editing?

    Thanks,
    Errol

    Errol X. Lazare
    EXL Films
    http://www.exlfilms.com

    Mike Skibra replied 13 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Kevin Monahan

    February 5, 2013 at 11:48 pm

    No, not really.
    Check out Wirecast or https://www.boinx.com/boinxtv/home/“>BoinxTV.

    Kevin Monahan
    Sr. Content and Community Lead
    Adobe After Effects
    Adobe Premiere Pro
    Adobe Systems, Inc.
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  • Jeff Pulera

    February 6, 2013 at 6:20 pm

    Hi Errol,

    As Kevin mentioned, Telestream’s Wirecast software will do what you are asking. Was originally designed to work with DV and HDV cameras, because of 1394 input ability, and USB cameras also work. Now there is third-party hardware support, most notably the new Matrox VS4 card. It has 4 HD-SDI inputs, so you can bring in up to FOUR sources, live switch them including titles, graphics, transitions, and live-stream to the web.

    Also does ISO recording of the 4 inputs so you can have edit-ready camera files at the end of the event for post-production. Can also record a “master” copy of the program, though it is limited to “web” quality. Not totally suitable for editing, but I have saved an H.264 at 1080 and looked pretty nice. Better to use the ISO recordings which are MPEG-2 I-Frame 100Mbps quality or better (adjustable).

    VS4 is for PC, and Matrox Multi-Ingest is the Mac version of the hardware for Wirecast.

    Thanks

    Jeff Pulera
    Safe Harbor Computers

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    April 25, 2013 at 11:54 pm

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  • Mike Skibra

    April 26, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    Softron (https://www.softron.tv) makes a product called Multicam Logger which allows you to log multiple angles and then bring your clips directly into Premiere in order to edit them later.

    So Multicam Logger will answer this part of your post: If not possible in premiere is there a way to use another program for the streaming and then have an XML or EDL to be able to see all the live cuts that we made and modify it for future editing?

    As far as outputting to the web – MovieStreamer HLS requires a video input at the current time but that can be used for streaming HTTP Live Streaming (so for iOS, Android, etc.) (Softron announced its Smart Playout Engine at NAB – and that will allow streaming to the web directly from its playout applications. The SPE will be built into the playout products in Q4/13, so after IBC.) If you were taking your Program out of the switcher to the input of MovieStreamer HLS, you could stream the Program Live – and, while running Multicam Logger, all of your cuts would be recorded to an EDL.

    Finally Softron also has a product called MovieRecorder that you can use to capture multicam and edit with Premiere. There is an article here that provides the details. https://softron.zendesk.com/entries/20894567-HOW-TO-Do-Edit-while-ingest-with-Adobe-Premiere-Pro- That allows you to edit while ingesting the video. You’d use one MovieRecorder for each input that you are capturing live and of course you would need to have a video card like the Blackmagic Design Decklink Quad to do the capture.

    Multicam Logger however does not require that you capture directly to the computer. Let’s say you have four cameras and each is recording to the storage on the camera. The video connection from the camera is going to the switcher. You are using Multicam Logger to log your angles and any markers that you want. You could be streaming the Program to the Net with MovieStream HLS. After the shoot – go back to your Mac and just copy the media that was recorded on the individual cameras to your storage and associate the angles of each camera to the media on the drive. Then edit. That way, you don’t need to schlepp a MacPro with you and massive amounts of storage. Use a MBP to do all of your logging, use the cameras for the media.

    So there are a lot of ways to do what you want.

    Mike Skibra

    Full disclosure – I am the Business Development Manager for Softron

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