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Live feed in FCP
Posted by Göran Thorén on December 2, 2009 at 8:19 amHi!
So this is my scenario:
Day one, shooting a locked off outdoor, perspective scene.
Day two, shooting a locked off studio, perspective scen.Problem: Need to match the angle and objects in the scene. To do that, i need to get a live feed from the camera and overlaying a still from the shot from the first day.
Is that possible in FCP? I probably going to shoot RED so firewire is out of the question.Or does anyone have any suggestion to get a live feed from a camera via BNC into some software and overlaying an image there?
Edit: Just to be clear, I don’t need to record or edit anytihing, just overlaying a stillframe on the camera output.
Thank’s
Göran Thorén replied 16 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 12 Replies -
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Tamas Erdosi
December 2, 2009 at 10:00 am“Edit: Just to be clear, I don’t need to record or edit anytihing, just overlaying a stillframe on the camera output. ”
If I take into account this above your best way is to use a video mixer which is able to use custom frames (or connect a device to the mixer which has the stillframe source) and a monitor.Computer isn’t necessary for this purpose.It’s a budget question of course but I think it’s still cheaper than buying a software.
If you want to use a computer and software based mixing , try this (but I guess, it’s only for Windows) : MediaLooks Video Mixer 1.1.2.1
In my experience you can’t do this in FCP.
Good Luck! If you find a solution can send me some words please what is your pick?Thanks!
Tamas Erdosi / http://www.tamaserdosi.eu
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Göran Thorén
December 2, 2009 at 11:06 amOf course! a mixer! We actually have one here at my work, not the best but it will do for this simple purpose. Thank’s alot Tamas!
I guess I’m going to look at a software solution too, since that could be handy for mobile shoots.
Would be great to be able to just bring your laptop to the set. -
Andy Mees
December 2, 2009 at 11:39 amLooks like HD Monitor from Red Lightning Software does what you want … on sale at the moment too
https://www.hdmonitorpro.com/HD_Monitor_Pro/Home.htmlalso check out ScopeBox and Veescope Live
… am assuming that you have the necessary I/O functionality already
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Göran Thorén
December 2, 2009 at 12:45 pmThank’s Andy!
That software would have been exactly what I was looking for but as far as I undertand it only supports firewire live view. The RED support is a bluetooth thingie that can be used to wireless log takes and such, no live view. And when I think about it, an obvious question comes to my mind; how would I get the RED signal in to a laptop….Hmm.. I really have to make this work somehow.
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Andy Mees
December 2, 2009 at 1:00 pmHi Goran
Sorry. As noted I assumed you already understood (and had covered) your basic I/O needs for feeding video into your Mac. If not, then you need an I/O solution … check out the MXO2 line, AJA’s Io HD or Io Express, or the offerings from MOTU (V4HD and HDX-SDI), all of these will work on a laptop.
Divergent Media’s ScopeBox will also let you overlay a quicktime video or still … works with any available video input source as provided by the likes of the above
https://www.scopebox.com/Best
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Göran Thorén
December 2, 2009 at 1:21 pmThank’s again Andy, sorry I didn’t see your note on the I/O earlier.
I just thought of another approach, why not hook up the laptop to the same monitor as the RED monitor?
I guess it would be possible to feed the monitor with the laptop image and just flip between the two inputs on the monitor? I think this would be a very simple but workable solution if it works…
I don’t know if the laptop can send out a videosignal eccept from the dvi. Maby there is a way of getting the dvi into the monitor…Edit: I now see that I have s-video out from my laptop and with a converter to bnc this might actually work!
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Tamas Erdosi
December 2, 2009 at 1:54 pmIf you want to keep the perspectives with the outdoor and indoor shoot you should keep the HD 1.7 aspect, as well.S-video can’t do it ,DVI might do this for you but you still need an external device that brings you the signal to the computer and if you have an external box you should use that for all monitoring.That’s more reliable.I work a lot with livefeeds and I don’t recommend you this.
The best solution would be Red Rocket and by this way you don’t “loose” anything.It runs 4K on every device which is compatible and a perfect laptop solution but it’s not budget friendly at all mainly not for just checking the screen.Another optimal solutions could be those ones Andy told you.
Without an I/O box you can’t do this in the exact way you need if a computer is used for this.
Without a computer, using a video mixer (comptatible of course) from the camera HD-SDI output connected to a decent monitor you can switch between the keyed still frame+live and only live screens.
Tamas Erdosi / http://www.tamaserdosi.eu
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Göran Thorén
December 2, 2009 at 2:20 pmWow, Thank’s for that info Tamas! I didn’t realize that aspect problem.
I guess I will have to look for an I/O solution and get me a software.
Really not in the budget but I’ts crucial that those shots match decent. -
Arnie Schlissel
December 2, 2009 at 2:39 pmYou can also look at Conduit from DV Garage.
Arnie
Post production is not an afterthought!
https://www.arniepix.com/ -
Göran Thorén
December 2, 2009 at 3:19 pmThat was a really nifty little software, thank’s Arnie!
No I just need to get the signal in to my laptop…
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