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  • Liney text from After Effects to Final Cut

    Posted by Matt Holt on September 14, 2006 at 9:26 am

    Hi

    I have a problem that’s been buggung me for weeks and I can’t think of a solution.

    As I have used After Effects for years I tend to do my aninmations in After Effects not Final Cut Pro as I can work quicker this way, I render them out and import them into my Final Cut Pro Projects.
    I have been dong this for a few years but I’ve noticed my Text animations are not looking as crisp as they should. If they are just sitting on the screen they look stepped, kind of liney and not at all sharp round the edges. I render them in the DV codec or even uncompressed but thet look the same when imported and rendered! I’m careful to get the field order right and even in animation codec with not fields rendered the result in FCP is always the same.

    I have a Decklink hooked up to a decent RGB Monitor, the animations look fine when previewing in After Effect, and as they render out. Once in FCP however they look terrible!
    It is not a text size issue as a lot of them are chunky szeable texts. If I make a still PICT overlay in AE of the same frame and bring that into FCP and overlay it over some video
    the text looks great, even with fine text.

    I can’t remember it always being this way and I’m confused as to where this problem has crept in from. Is it Final Cut acting strange or After Effects? Has anyone else experienced this problem. I will post this on both forums and see if anyone can help

    many thanks

    Matt

    Matt Holt replied 19 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
  • 4 Replies
  • Jerry Hofmann

    September 14, 2006 at 1:21 pm

    Are you judging the quality of the text externally on a video monitor? If not try that… after all that’s what you are really working with. What you see in the Canvas is a proxy of the actual resolution you are working with.

    Jerry

  • Kevin Monahan

    September 15, 2006 at 1:25 am

    This common complaint crops up more since RT Extreme and the RT Pop Up menu came into play.
    Make sure you’re in Safe RT, High Quality, Full Frame Playback.
    Always judge in the video monitor. ah ah ah ah! ALWAYS.
    If you cannot, at least set the computer monitor to have the Canvas displayed precisely at 100%
    Show as Sq. Pixels Unchecked.

    A lot of gotchas since the FCP 3 era my friend. You gotta stay on top of ’em.

    Kevin Monahan
    Take My FCP Master’s Workshop!
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  • Matt Holt

    September 15, 2006 at 11:55 am

    yeah all the settings are set to the ones you describe and I view everything on a Sony Video monitor receiving a component RGB signal from my decklink.
    I view my work in After Effects and Final Cut pro this way. It seems to me it’s a problem when it gets compressed into this DV codec, although if I render without fields
    in an animation codec it looks just as bad. Something seems to be happening in FCP. I’m running version 5.1 and I can’t remember always having these problems so maybe
    it is something to do with the version changes.
    I have started to do Text in FCP itself which looks much sharper but I find it not as versatile as my old After Effects way

    thanks for the advice though

    Matt

  • Matt Holt

    October 20, 2006 at 3:42 pm

    I’ve discovered that this problem seems colour specific.
    If I make text animations using After Effects or Final Cut in strong colours such as red or orange I get this liney effect on the FCP timeline.
    It gets worse once the clip is rendered on the timeline. The same text animations in white produce clear, crisp edges with no
    stepping or blocky edges.

    I’m not sure now if this is a preferences or render setting or if it is a draw back with the Pal DV codec. Definitely seems
    to worsen on rendering and the fault doesn’t seem to be eminating from After Effects after all.

    If anyone else has ever experienced this problem with text I’d be keen to know

    thanks

    Matt

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