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Lightworks coming to the Mac
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Yeah, I mean, seriously guys. Who needs an analog style mixer built in to our digital tools?
Die skeumorphism. Die.”I presume you are saying that in jest, as it doesn’t really define skeumorphism.
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[Oliver Peters] “I presume you are saying that in jest, as it doesn’t really define skeumorphism.”
Definitely a nod towards humor. I don’t always get the funny part right.
Although, if you believe such things, Wikipedia says this:
“Many computer programs have a skeuomorphic graphical user interface that emulates objects in the physical world. An example of this trend was the 1998 RealThings package.[12] A more extreme example is that many music synthesis and audio processing software packages closely emulate physical musical instruments and audio equipment. Functional input controls like knobs, buttons, switches and sliders are often careful duplicates of the ones on the original physical device being emulated. Some software even includes graphical elements of the original design that serve no user interface function: handles, screws and ventilation holes for example.
Even systems that do not employ literal images of some physical object frequently contain skeuomorphic elements such as slider bars that emulate linear potentiometers and tabs that behave like tabbed file folders. Skeuomorphs need not be visual. The shutter-click sound emitted by most camera phones when taking a picture is an auditory skeuomorph – it does not come from a mechanical shutter, which camera phones lack, but from a sound file in the phone’s operating system. Another example is the swiping hand gesture for turning the “pages” or screens of a tablet.”If we want to take it one step backwards, the death of tracks is the death of skeumorphism, or am I taking this too far?
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[Jeremy Garchow] “If we want to take it one step backwards, the death of tracks is the death of skeumorphism, or am I taking this too far?”
too far! :p
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[David Lawrence] “too far! :p”
Be careful for what you wish. 😉
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[Jeremy Garchow] “If we want to take it one step backwards, the death of tracks is the death of skeumorphism, or am I taking this too far?
“Yes.
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Yes, you are taking this too far. It’s about visual design, not function. A panel with sliders that functions like a physical mixer is not skeumorphic. A panel with aesthetics that look like a real SSL or Neve is. Most audio plug-ins, like amp emulators, are skeumorphic. A mixer panel like FCP7’s is not. I kind of like a lot of skeumorphism if it is done tastefully. For example, the Focusrite filters versus the built-in Logic filters.
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[Oliver Peters] “It’s about visual design, not function.”
That’s an oxymoron isn’t it?
[Oliver Peters] “I kind of like a lot of skeumorphism if it is done tastefully. “
And that’s the point I’m making.
Bad design is bad design, skeumorphed or not. A bad function functions badly.
We can’t conveniently choose when skeumorphed design needs to die to fit our will, we just need better functioning design.
A touch based analog mixer in a digital space, at least in my opinion, is skeumorphed, as much as it hurts.
I don’t have a problem with skeumorphism, poorly functioning design is what gets in the way.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “That’s an oxymoron isn’t it?”
Huh? No I don’t think so. You can have good or bad visual design independent of good or bad function.
[Jeremy Garchow] “A touch based analog mixer in a digital space, at least in my opinion, is skeumorphed, as much as it hurts.”
I would disagree. Skeumorphism involves a faux-3D visual representation of a real-world object. If you have the exact same function in a flat design, it generally isn’t thought of as skeumorphism. A prime example would be the source/record window in TouchEdit versus FCPX/PPro/MC. TouchEdit is skeumorphic and the others aren’t.
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[Oliver Peters] “Huh? No I don’t think so. You can have good or bad visual design independent of good or bad function.”
Of course you can. You said “it is about visual design and not function”. Skeumorphism is not only about visual design. It also has a very functional aspect, especially in the realm of content creation software. Many things look as analog as possible, which may or may not be the best way to present and manipulate the information especially with one input device of a mouse. Skeumorphism is not inherently bad design or function, but it certainly can be both.
An audio mixer in an NLE is skeumorphism, and it follows a real world track based metaphor and history.
The absence of tracks/mixer in fcpx, therefore, is the absence of that design. There is no skeumorphism, and Gary Huff has his wish.
How’s that for far fetched?
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[Oliver Peters] “I would disagree. Skeumorphism involves a faux-3D visual representation of a real-world object. If you have the exact same function in a flat design, it generally isn’t thought of as skeumorphism. “
[Jeremy Garchow] “An audio mixer in an NLE is skeumorphism, and it follows a real world track based metaphor and history.”
Nonsense. Using this logic, every button in a computer UI would be a skeumorph as well because clicking on them mimics pressing physical buttons. Oliver’s right.
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