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LG NAS w/ Blue Ry Burner
Any one use the LG Super Multi Nas w/blue ray burner?
I was thinking of adding into our workflow as an archival system. When a project is done, transfer the project files onto the SAN. Then have an assistant burn BlueRay copies before it gets removed.
Basically get the project files off of the individual Edit suite drives (Since we don’t have a SAN yet) and onto one central drive (redundantly mirrored pair). We wouldn’t be working off the direve – just archiving to it – so speed isn’t an issue. And it wouldn’t tie up one machine to host the drives – it’s a network attached drive. The added blue ray burner seems like a cool bonus – and would be logical to burn right from the drive.
Just curious if anyone uses one. I really don’t expect much from a $800 drive. The next logical step up would be a drobo.
Can’t wait to hear Bob’s rant on “you get what you pay for, so if you want to trust your files to a $800 pile of crap – go ahead, just don’t call me when it breaks!”
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Backup is ALWAYS a good idea. The LG NAS is a pretty clever little box, but you’re going to get what you pay for as you say. Keep in mind this device only has one GbE port so, all of your users will be funneling down one port trying to access the same two drives at once, if trying to backup at the same time, which will slow them down a bit. Also try to make sure that you’re using a Verification process when copying your media from local storage to the network storage. It would be a hard lesson learned to have made an Archive of incomplete or corrupt data. I don’t trust the Finder or Windows Explorer with important data transfers intended for archive. ChronoSync is one of my favorite tools for this on the Mac.
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this is a 4TB NAS
The enclosure attaches to your network via 10/100/1000Mbps Gigabit Ethernet — not directly to your computer — allowing you to access it from any system on your network
It has a single gigabit ethernet connection. Exactly what are you trying to accomplish ?
Bob Zelin
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hey rick
backup and archive are 2 different things. i could see using this box as a backup station, but i would never archive projects to it. RAIDs and hard drives in general are risky for long term archiving.
i’m not a fan of archiving to BD either. the shelf life is not proven. i have CD-Rs and DVD-Rs that are no longer readable. the CD-Rs i had were even “archive quality”. they barely lasted 10 years. BD is expensive. if a 25GB BD-R is $5, its about $.20/GB. LTO-4 tape is currently around $.04/GB with a shelf life of 20-30 years. a 2TB hard drive for $100 comes to $.05/GB, but like i said, i wouldn’t suggest hard drives for long term archiving
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Eric Hansen – http://www.erichansen.tv
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It would be a temporary Back-Up, with an Archive directly to BR with one click. I don’t buy that disc media shelf life is not as long as LTO. Nothing lasts forever, and technology changes so the device to play media comes and goes as well. I’ve never had to go back to a project more than 5-6 years old. Most of the projects I work on would be “dated” by 5 years. I have binders of DVDs of archived projects and I’ve never (knock on wood) had any issues reading them.
Blue Ray Discs are a bout $1 a piece not $5 a piece, and this drive/burner combo is $700 compared to a DLT machine which is $3-5k. Not to mention I would need to have a dedicated machine hooked up to the DLT drive.
I’m not a large facility with tons of media and tons of edit bays. I’m just looking for a simple solution to ensure the projects are being archived. Since media sizes are getting better, DVDs are becoming cumbersome spanning across lots of discs. I thought Blue Ray would at least help – plus the fact that it is a NAS makes it easy to toss the files onto (it could auto back-up each night). Again – each station has a mirrored RAID “project” drive that keeps the projects redundant at the local level. So this would mean all the projects are on 4 drives – plus a BlueRay copy. Heck, as I fill up the RAID I could even just put new drives in and keep the drives on the shelf too!
Editor
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cool to hear that BD discs are down to $1 each. i buy the inkjet hub printable ones that tend to go for more.
you’re pretty much on the mark when it comes to LTO. i only recommend it to shops that are putting away 20TB+ a year. but i wanted to throw that out there as an option because it gets forgotten these days. but here’s 2 quick observations from my one-man shop:
i have written 6 700GB LTO-4 tapes which have my projects from the last few years. that’s 2 sets of 3 so i can have one set in my office and one set in a safe deposit box. i don’t own the LTO deck, one of my clients does and lets me use it. 3 tapes fits very easily in my deposit box. if i transferred these 6 tapes to 25GB BluRays, that would be 168 discs. that would be 84 discs to place in my deposit box. i also have a lot of files over 25GB, so i would have to span multiple discs to save these files. so for me, BluRay is still too similar to DVD for me to consider it. but like all things, everyone’s needs are different and your mileage may vary. i don’t use hard drives for archive. i’ve had too many fail on me. they’re built to spin, not sit on a shelf. if you want to use them for archive, you need to pretty diligent about spinning them up every few months and checking for errors. i would suggest at least 3 copies with hard drives instead of the usual 2 just because the failure rate is higher. then transfer their contents over to new media every few years. yes you need to do this with tape and optical too, but i know with LTO i have more time between data transfers.
either way, looks like a cool little device.
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Eric Hansen – http://www.erichansen.tv
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